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NYWalker 07-18-2006 05:46 AM

After you move-in, what\'s villian\'s perception of being clocked?
 
Here's one hand in Sunday's WSOP NL $2000 shootout.
I was at table 13 seat 8. Level 1, 25/25. I had 1650. Villian had 2500. Villian's loose but lucky in the first few hands.
6-handed. Villian in CO raised 4BB (100), I was the SB and looked down KQs. I called 75. Others folded. Two players.

Flop K72 (rainbow), I bet 200. Villian called.

Turn Td, I checked and villian fired 450. I pushed all-in with 1300. Villian looked very sick after I pushed and I immediately narrow him down to JJ or QQ. He thought it for 2 minutes and said:"I didn't like the T..." 2.5 minutes... I decided to put pressure on him and called clock. When floor man was there, villian suddenly called and showed 99.

The river was a 9. He said to me"if you didn't put clock on me, I'd flod, really! Because I thought you were bluffing me when you called clock, I put you on AQ." (is this true?)

I'm not talking about being beaten by 1:23 odds here. I'm thinking is this the general reaction of being clocked?

So, when you move all-in with best hand and hoping villian to call, would it be helpful to put clock on him so that he would think you were bluffing?

nath 07-18-2006 06:08 AM

Re: After you move-in, what\'s villian\'s perception of being clocked?
 
A surprising number of people do think this. For that reason I usually don't call for a clock unless I want a call. I try to let someone else do it.
Then again, I've played relatively few live events.

jiffypop 07-18-2006 08:27 AM

Re: After you move-in, what\'s villian\'s perception of being clocked?
 
This isn't really a response, but I remember Sheikan calling clock on Matusow during the ME last year and getting insta-called. Wasn't an all-in situation, though.

I suppose it's a knee-jerk reaction; kinda like "How DARE you call clock on me!"

Brandonjp13 07-18-2006 08:57 AM

Re: After you move-in, what\'s villian\'s perception of being clocked?
 
I remember see a few different hands in the televised ME hands last year where the clock was called and they just let it run down till their hand was dead, I don't know exactly what they we're thinking abotu bluffs or not but it doesn't seem to provoke an insta call.

THEOSU 07-18-2006 09:04 AM

Re: After you move-in, what\'s villian\'s perception of being clocked?
 

if it's a good shot, they probably start swelling above their eye.

Topnoevili 07-18-2006 10:17 AM

Re: After you move-in, what\'s villian\'s perception of being clocked?
 
I haven't played a ton of live tourny's but I never call the clock while i'm in the hand for this reason... but I may start if I want a call...

mattmcegg 07-18-2006 10:32 AM

Re: After you move-in, what\'s villian\'s perception of being clocked?
 
Hes full of s^@t. He said that because he knows he made a bad call. Dont listen to players when they say stuff like this.

Beachman42 07-18-2006 01:53 PM

Re: After you move-in, what\'s villian\'s perception of being clocked?
 
Calling with 99 on that board was a mistake. Saying that he would have correctly folded (instead of sucking out) afterwards is a bigger mistake. Buddy list the guy by stapling an "I'm a DONK" tag to his forehead and then releasing him back into the wild . . .

NYWalker 07-18-2006 02:36 PM

Re: After you move-in, what\'s villian\'s perception of being clocked?
 
He's one of the two heads up. He's on seat 4, the other on seat 1. I checked the winner of this table was Van Marcus.

(I'm lucky the 2k buy-in was from previous night's 525 SNG satellite's winning. Anyway, if you can be in Vegas a few days early, it's a must to practice in the field and expect who you would be facing in ME.)

0evg0 07-18-2006 04:19 PM

Re: After you move-in, what\'s villian\'s perception of being clocked?
 
This was played pretty well. I've been pretty disrespectful of your play in the past, but you really seem to be improving Walker.

GL at the rest of the Series


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