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MikeyPatriot 07-13-2006 04:02 PM

Gosh darn river
 
READS: None. Less than 20 hands on table. Villain and I have done nothing of note.

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BB ($61.30)
Hero ($51.80)
MP ($10.35)
Button ($113.25)
SB ($143.85)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, Button folds, BB calls $8.

Turn: ($26.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Checking behind for pot control...should I fire a second barrel here?

River: ($26.25) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $25</font>

[censored], right? I'm behind a set and KJ. Call/fold/raise?

FeNeF 07-13-2006 04:06 PM

Re: Gosh darn river
 
Folding that river is absolutely awful. Seriously disgustingly bad.

If you called the river I quite like your line. If you folded YSSCQP

SonOfWestwood 07-13-2006 04:11 PM

Re: Gosh darn river
 
The board's pretty wet, so I'd bet that turn.

As played, I'm definitely calling that river. Because you checked the turn, that increases the range of hands he'll do this with.

SonOfWestwood 07-13-2006 04:13 PM

Re: Gosh darn river
 
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If you called the river I quite like your line.

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I'm curious, what should I be thinking in these turn situations when trying for pot control vs. protecting my hand against draws? What about the hand is making you think that, in this case, pot control &gt; protecting against draws?

homeslice 07-13-2006 04:14 PM

Re: Gosh darn river
 
Why check the turn? Giving the villian a free card to draw at straight or flush? With TPTK I potting the turn or 4/5 of the pot. With top two pair on the river I'm calling villian's bet.

beavens 07-13-2006 04:16 PM

Re: Gosh darn river
 
i call this river - you'll see AJ[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]/AK a bunch of the time.

how would you play the hand if a club fell on the river?

gd_river 07-13-2006 04:17 PM

Re: Gosh darn river
 
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Folding that river is absolutely awful. Seriously disgustingly bad.

If you called the river I quite like your line. If you folded YSSCQP

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whats YSSCQP?

fish43 07-13-2006 04:17 PM

Re: Gosh darn river
 
Turn: Why not bet the rag? Pot-control on a draw heavy board? It's about losing control of the pot if the club hits.

I call and let him turn over the A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

beavens 07-13-2006 04:18 PM

Re: Gosh darn river
 
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Folding that river is absolutely awful. Seriously disgustingly bad.

If you called the river I quite like your line. If you folded YSSCQP

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whats YSSCQP?

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i'm guessing You Should Seriously Contemplate Quitting Poker

matv 07-13-2006 04:19 PM

Re: Gosh darn river
 
ur turn check is pretty average...u have to call this river bet.


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