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suited89 07-08-2006 10:08 PM

Combination Analysis
 
Can someone give me an exact situation where you figure out the possible hands a villain has (what you are ahead/what you are behind) and using that information along with pot size to make a decision. I've seen posters say like "there are 6 possible combos of KK and 6 combos of AA blah blah we have him beat) I don't really know how to do this and would like to learn.

Mossberg 07-08-2006 10:46 PM

Re: Combination Analysis
 
I'm not very good at this stuff and I'm far too baked to explain what i do know, so I'll leave it for one of the math-buffs.

However, I will suggest to you that you buy King Yao's "Weighing the Odds in Hold'em". Alot of this math type of stuff always baffled me (I've never been too good at math), and from what I've read so far, the author does a great job of breaking it down in a very understandable and concise way.

suited89 07-08-2006 10:48 PM

Re: Combination Analysis
 
I will look into the book.
toking = +EV imo

ILOVEPOKER929 07-08-2006 11:14 PM

Re: Combination Analysis
 
I you want to learn more about counting hand combinations and how to apply this information get David Sklanskys "Fighting Fuzzy Thinking in Poker Gaming & Life" and read pages 118-126.

The most common scenario where counting combinations can make/save you some money is when you have a set, and a passive opponent raises you on the turn when a straight card comes. Assuming he will only raise the turn with 2 pair or better, the correct move will usually be to call down since there are too many straight combo's to make a turn 3bet profitable.

Example: Passive guy(assume he will only raise TT-AA, and fold hands like K6,Q6,J6 preflop) open limps and its folded around to you in the BB with QQ, and you raise. The flop comes out KJ6, you bet, and he calls, the turn is a Q. You bet, and he raises. Assuming he will only raise the turn with 2 pair or better, his range on the turn looks like this: KQ,KJ,QJ,66,AT,T9. Counting combo's you would figure out that you are 16-9 underdog to have the best hand, therefore you would not 3bet with your set, instead you would call down unless you improve.

suited89 07-09-2006 01:29 AM

Re: Combination Analysis
 
thanks ilovepoker that helped clarify things a lot

Caddy_4_Life 07-09-2006 02:57 AM

Re: Combination Analysis
 
Here's an example:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showth...e=0#Post6470917

-Caddy

ILOVEPOKER929 07-09-2006 03:11 AM

Re: Combination Analysis
 
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Here's an example:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showth...e=0#Post6470917

-Caddy

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This is ideed an excellent example. Pop Quiz to everyone in this thread. If the villain will play AK,AJ,JJ & AA the same way on every street, how much of a favorite/underdog is Pokerbob on the turn after the villain raises, and given this information what should Bob do on the turn? I'll give my answer in 1 hour.

ILOVEPOKER929 07-09-2006 04:25 AM

Re: Combination Analysis
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Here's an example:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showth...e=0#Post6470917

-Caddy

[/ QUOTE ]

This is ideed an excellent example. Pop Quiz to everyone in this thread. If the villain will play AK,AJ,JJ & AA the same way on every street, how much of a favorite/underdog is Pokerbob on the turn after the villain raises, and given this information what should Bob do on the turn? I'll give my answer in 1 hour.

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Answer: Pokerbob is a 3-1 favorite to have the best hand on the turn against this range. Assuming this range is accurate, Bob should 3bet the turn.


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