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tbach24 07-02-2006 12:49 PM

Top and bottom pair flop question
 
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Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG folds, MP calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

River: (8.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

Final Pot: 10.75 BB

Haupt_234 07-02-2006 12:52 PM

Re: Top and bottom pair flop question
 
You should provide reads when posting hands.

A8o out of the BB after an UTG raiser and one coldcaller is a very easy fold.

Given that you didn't, you played the hand fine. I would try to bet/3bet this flop a lot though.

Haupt_234

James. 07-02-2006 02:09 PM

Re: Top and bottom pair flop question
 
wtf is the question? you need to be careful calling with that hand preflop.

Patrick Bateman 07-02-2006 02:29 PM

Re: Top and bottom pair flop question
 
[ QUOTE ]
A8o out of the BB after an UTG raiser and one coldcaller is a very easy fold.

[/ QUOTE ]
I would fold w/o the coldcaller also.

Patrick Bateman 07-02-2006 02:30 PM

Re: Top and bottom pair flop question
 
I now see it's 6 handed. Don't know if that makes a big difference though.

ncboiler 07-02-2006 02:42 PM

Re: Top and bottom pair flop question
 
Pretty standard except I may call the flop raise and then donk the turn on a safe card. The reasoning would be that MP may have raised for a free card for a straight or flush draw. If he is on a flush draw there is no reason to buld the pot for him.

fellfold 07-03-2006 11:03 AM

Re: Top and bottom pair flop question
 
If the other guy is drawing, your hand holds up more often than his draw hits (unless he has a straight draw and a flush draw). Build the pot for yourself.

Christian_Peters 07-03-2006 02:10 PM

Re: Top and bottom pair flop question
 
You would need several c/c's pf to make this call profitable. Your hand is just too likely to be dominated by a bigger ace.


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