$16: JJ with an overcard on the flop (two hands)
 

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1410)
UTG+1 (t4030)
MP1 (t1480)
CO (t545)
Hero (t1480)
SB (t3085)
BB (t1470)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, UTG+1 calls t30, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t120</font>, SB calls t105, BB calls t90, UTG+1 calls t90

Flop: (t480) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t480) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

River: (t480) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, <font color="red">BB bets t120</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, Hero calls t120, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>

Should I have bet this turn? Who bets this flop?


PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1390)
UTG+1 (t1580)
MP1 (t1480)
Hero (t1470)
MP3 (t1605)
CO (t1410)
Button (t1495)
SB (t1370)
BB (t1700)

Preflop: Hero is in MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t90</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, Button calls t90, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

Flop: (t225) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">Button bets t120</font>, Hero calls t120

Turn: (t465) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">Button bets t120</font>, Hero calls t120

River: (t705) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">Button bets t240</font>, Hero calls t240

This was pretty bad. Is the standard move to just fold to this flop bet?

Re: $16: JJ with an overcard on the flop (two hands)
 

The first hand is tough. I think I like the way you played it on the flop, but I would bet the turn once it is checked again. As played, absolutely call the river. I could also see a flop bet.

I think unforunately you are probably getting called on this flop. If you had decided to bet the flop, I don't think I'd like to fire again on the turn so I'd check behind and hope for a cheap showdown.

Hand2: You might try a weak CONT bet here and give up if called. If I had checked, I'd probably call flop and fold turn if he bet again. You beat nothing here except for a complete bluff (which I agree villain may have here occasionally, but being OOP the hand becomes really hard to play and you are still often behind).

Re: $16: JJ with an overcard on the flop (two hands)
 

I like the check behind on the flop in the first hand. But I probably stab at the pot on the turn. Calling the river is good.

C-bet Hand2. Fold the flop the way you played it. Check/calling down is horrible.

Re: $16: JJ with an overcard on the flop (two hands)
 

hand 1: i actually dont mind the way you played it

hand 2: id lead this flop and fold to heat, but once you check im just shutting down on the flop.

Re: $16: JJ with an overcard on the flop (two hands)
 

hand 1: good
hand2: c-bet here and check/fold if called. If you plan to check the flop fold to any resistance, you kind of forced yourself into calling small bets.