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AbelM 06-14-2006 04:47 PM

First tries at 25-50
 
5 handed 25-50 game on UB. One of my first sessions ever, so i don't know much about opponents. Villain (gandi9) seems solid so far though and i haven't been doing anything crazy either. Villain has 6800, i cover.

I'm in the BB with 66, UTG limps (has done this a few times) and SB(villain) raises to 200. We both call.

Flop is 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Pot is 600.
SB bets 600, I call and UTG folds.

Preflop raise oop into two people seems very strong (overpair, overcards maybe even with hearts seem like good possibilities).

Turn is 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB checks, i bet 1200, he calls.

Great spot to represent the 9, after his call though i'd think an overpair is very very likely for him.

River is 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Pot is 4200 and he has 4800 behind. He checks to me. Good spot to bluff or give up?

Comments on other streets also welcome of course.

Requin 06-14-2006 04:54 PM

Re: First tries at 25-50
 
I think river is a definate check.

luckychewy 06-14-2006 05:09 PM

Re: First tries at 25-50
 
How do you think he percieves you? Tricky? Straightfoward? If he thinks you will bluff a draw he will probably have to call with an overpair, but if he thinks you are straightfoward he might fold. I think I'd have to bet since your hand is almost never good IMO.

aejones 06-14-2006 05:10 PM

Re: First tries at 25-50
 
I think so too, especially given that you have a hand that has a solid shot to win a showdown (vs straight or flush draws).

Pure bluff on riv on that board to get 88 or TTish to fold? I don't know, doesn't seem like you have a good enough read on opponent to think he'll lay it down often enough for a bluff to be profitable. I'd advocate that you bluff more likely if you had a hand like 5 6 with no shot of winning a showdown, because not only does he have a chance to fold an overpair but also a draw hand that could show down queen high and win the pot.

Requin 06-14-2006 05:13 PM

Re: First tries at 25-50
 
Given the straight AND flush draw out there, I don't think its inconcievable for villain to have one, having c/ced the turn maybe with the intention of bluffing the other if it came. Plus you will have (at least, I would have) air/missed draw in this spot often enough that I don't think he lays down an overpair.

AbelM 06-14-2006 05:14 PM

Re: First tries at 25-50
 
Straightforward. Bit loose preflop maybe.

luckychewy 06-14-2006 05:17 PM

Re: First tries at 25-50
 
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Straightforward. Bit loose preflop maybe.

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Gotta bet then I think. I think you have to think what he will interprit you will bet with a 9. All-in? 2/3 pot? 1/2 pot? 1/3 pot?

Allinlife 06-14-2006 05:37 PM

Re: First tries at 25-50
 
I think this is a decent bluff spot...your hand has showdown value but when he c-c's that turn you can be almost certain your 66 is no good.

AbelM 06-15-2006 02:32 PM

Re: First tries at 25-50
 
fwiw, i checked he showed QQ.

DcifrThs 06-15-2006 04:01 PM

Re: First tries at 25-50
 
depending on how he thinks you play, it may be that he simply puts you on a busted draw and calls w/ his likely overpair. this seems to be a standard line w/ a hand like JJ-AA b/c when the 9 pairs, draws may push over a turn bet and make an uncomfortable spot, but are more likelyt ob et when checked to (further, lower pairs can now release if the OP guy bets the turn). so given he check called the turn, it really depends on how he views you. if this was a non two toned board, id be more likeely to put in that last bet.

2/3 pot seems good.

Barron


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