A group of 5/10 hands + Intro to forum
 

I'm a pretty successful turney player (mtt & sng) but I'm getting annoyed with sng's and want something to go along with mtts. I played a bunch of low limit NL when I first started off and have played 2/4 and 3/6 when I don't feel like playing sngs. I'm ready to master this stuff, so here are some hands I think I misplayed or arn't sure on during my first real 5/10 session tonight.
I'll add my thought process for a certain hadn if you would like

#1
fine?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 ($1860)
MP1 ($3382.80)
Hero ($976)
CO ($918.50)
Button ($2110.20)
SB ($3065.80)
BB ($1302.75)
UTG ($1596)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $40</font>, Hero calls $40, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $35, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($130) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $70</font>, Hero calls $70, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $280</font>, MP1 folds, Hero calls $210.

Turn: ($760) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $2745.8 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $656 (All-In).

River: ($4161.80) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $4161.80

#2
Now that I think about it he did a good job getting a cheap river with his hand. I called flop with the intention of c/r all in on turn, but I doubt that's the best play here. On to the river, does my bet scream "plz jsut call I have an overpair" ? Fold to his pretty quick push? The only real read I had was taht he was multitabling.

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SB ($1787.75)
BB ($1000)
UTG ($1083.75)
UTG+1 ($1000)
Hero ($1173)
MP2 ($2156.90)
CO ($1805)
Button ($1138)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $40</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $40, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($95) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $180</font>, Hero calls $120.

Turn: ($455) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($455) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $225</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $918</font>, Hero

#3 meh, better lines?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 ($213.15)
MP1 ($562.50)
MP2 ($624.75)
Hero ($990)
CO ($270)
Button ($1225.90)
SB ($1000)
BB ($202.35)
UTG ($670)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $10, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $40</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $40, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $30.

Flop: ($135) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $100</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $270</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $950</font>, Button folds.

Final Pot: $1355

#4
villian was iconoclastic. I think he's a regular and I can't see how that river shove is not for value. I don't fold sets ever on boards like this in turnies, can you fold sets in NL? Is he shoving enough 2 pairs to call this?

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MP1 ($1755.20)
MP2 ($1157)
CO ($1216.40)
Hero ($1187)
SB ($115)
BB ($1057)
UTG ($1055)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls $10, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $40</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $30.

Flop: ($95) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $55</font>, CO calls $55.

Turn: ($205) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $140</font>, CO calls $140.

River: ($485) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets $880</font>, Hero calls $880.

Final Pot: $2245

#5

eek, butchered this terribly. I know the turn bet looks real donkey but I figured he would tell me there if he had the Q and I was trying to get as cheap a river as possible.

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Button ($1760.70)
SB ($208.05)
BB ($323)
Hero ($932)
UTG+1 ($634.25)
MP1 ($485)
MP2 ($848)
MP3 ($742.45)
CO ($1128)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $40</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls $40, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: ($95) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $50</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $150</font>, Hero calls $100.

Turn: ($395) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $50</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $150</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $595

#6
Villian was ansky. I don't think he knows who I was but probobly thought I was just a random donk after this hand. My turney insticts say flop is a push/fold (my bet is the same thing as a push), calling seems gross. I'm pretty sure I can push him off pairs under JJ and probobly QQ too. Still, this line seems like spewing.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($1305)
UTG ($3166.80)
Hero ($955)
MP1 ($1120)
MP2 ($1107)
CO ($220)
Button ($1097.75)
SB ($393.75)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $40</font>, MP1 calls $40, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>.

Flop: ($95) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $50</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $710</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $1080</font>, Hero calls $205 (All-In).

Turn: ($2090) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($2090) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $2090

Re: A group of 5/10 hands + Intro to forum
 

sup bro?

1) You may want to raise the flop to find out if your hand is good and make a flush draw pay more. I'm not really sure what his turn bet means... the 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is unlikely to have completed any hands and the flush draw missed. I would think a set would play to extract more value so I think a call there might be good.

2) I fold to his river bet most likely. I think I would also bet more on the flop closer to the pot. Maybe this is too results orientiented but I might check/call the river as to avoid building a massive pot.

3) Seems decent. I might be worried that a set would make that same raise... but it coule be a flush draw also. Very unlikely he has two pair unless he called with a suited ace.

4) Seems like a strange play to bluff. 880 to get a 485 doesn't make sense unless he thinks your folding 30% of the time (which could be possible). I would be worried about the texture of the flop. Most people play 78s suited there. Or he could have hit his set of 9s on the turn. I am confused by this one and not sure what to think.

5) Bet more on that flop and fold to his flop reraise as played. The turn bet was meant to be a blocking bet I am guessing so that he would not reraise? If so your blocking bet should be more like 35-45% of the pot here.

6) I don't like how you played this one. I would not mind so much if you had AQs but with the board is it possible he has axs. I think it may be deep stack enough for a call there on flop because of your implied odds. You are getting about 2:1 to call. However, missing sucks and checking the turn is a sure sign of weakness. I think Ansky's play is generally strong LAG from what I have seen.

Btw, some of your flop bets seem pretty small to me... usually when you hit top pair I think it's best to bet around 3/4 the pot or so to find out quickly whether you are ahead. Hopes this helps... I am not an expert at NL cash yet so feel free to critique anything back.

Re: A group of 5/10 hands + Intro to forum
 

"Btw, some of your flop bets seem pretty small to me... usually when you hit top pair I think it's best to bet around 3/4 the pot or so to find out quickly whether you are ahead."


Or to tell your opponent exactly where you are at! Well, at least narrow it down significantly eh? :-)

Re: A group of 5/10 hands + Intro to forum
 

please post one hand at a time.

Re: A group of 5/10 hands + Intro to forum
 

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please post one hand at a time.

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Well I figured some of these hands would be pretty easy and I would feel weird just showing up here and flooding the forum with 5/10 hands. You can respond to just one or 2 if you want.

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#1 – Raise preflop, Raise the flop. As played calling the turn is kind of meh but fine.

#2 – This is a really weird hand. I can’t really put villain on a hand that beats you. I’d call and except to see something like 44 or 55

#3 3 betting here is really really bad. Villain will never call with a worse hand, it allows him to play perfectly against you, and makes your 3-bet basically a bluff.

#4 – Looks like the flopped the nuts, or hes not a regular and being a donk with a missed draw. I doubt I’d fold here, but I wish I could.

#5, fold the flop. Don’t donk bet the turn.

#6 – Ok

In general always bet 3/4th to full pot on the flop. Never bet 1/2 the pot or less on any street. It's pretty terrible.

Bigball, I’d probably move back down in stakes for a while if I was you. I don’t know that you are a yet a wining player at this level. But at least we pwn sit-n-gos.

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sup bro?

1) You may want to raise the flop to find out if your hand is good and make a flush draw pay more. I'm not really sure what his turn bet means... the 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is unlikely to have completed any hands and the flush draw missed. I would think a set would play to extract more value so I think a call there might be good.


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I think the villian's line looks a lot like a set.

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Re: A group of 5/10 hands + Intro to forum
 

multi hand posts suck. I would reccomend posting each one of these seperatly every two days in medium stakes. I would make sure to give acurate reads as all of these are very player dependant.

Re: A group of 5/10 hands + Intro to forum
 

Hand 1 ~ Not a fan of calling the flop here, reraise is in order to see where you're at IMO.

Hand 2 ~ Hand 2 I think is played well ~ bet a little more on flop, I think check/calling the river is way too result oriented here but I'd probably lay this down with a frown.

Hand 3 ~ I dislike the 3BET on flop here, if you get called here you're most likely facing a set.

Hand 4 ~ I'm not getting away from this IMO, could be a variety of busted combo draws.

Hand 5 ~ Again I dislike the 60ish~~ bets here, but fold this flop.

Hand 6 ~ IMO you're overs are most likely dead here.