JTo vs loose limper
 

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Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (3.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, MP calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (5.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB

Re: JTo vs loose limper
 

Nice job.

Re: JTo vs loose limper
 

Without a read, I'd let it go on the flop. Pot's pretty tiny, a lot of our outs are tainted.

Re: JTo vs loose limper
 

I'd be inclined to raise the turn for value since his stop and go doesn't really scare me and I now have TP. When he takes this line he's more likely to have an 8,7,T9,66 or something else we now beat.

Re: JTo vs loose limper
 

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I'd be inclined to raise the turn for value since his stop and go doesn't really scare me and I now have TP. When he takes this line he's more likely to have an 8,7,T9,66 or something else we now beat.

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How would you handle it if you got three-bet? Does this influence our decision at all to raise?

Re: JTo vs loose limper
 

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Without a read, I'd let it go on the flop. Pot's pretty tiny, a lot of our outs are tainted.

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How many outs do you think we have (on the flop)?

Re: JTo vs loose limper
 

I think fold preflop. The rest looks good.

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I'd play it as 5-6 outs, so 5.5 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

It's hard for me to exactly quantify outs in situations like these, actually, since out J and T outs could be dominated and set us up to be redrawn if they're not dominated. I don't really want to see a spade come up.

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How would you handle it if you got three-bet? Does this influence our decision at all to raise?

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Yes it will influence the decision to raise but it should only be one of the factors going into the decision. I think we've got the best hand here most of the time and aren't getting 3 bet often enough to upset this.

When we do get 3 bet it sucks because we're getting 8.75:1 making whatever decision we choose close. So if we're uncomfortable making a close decision vs an unknown we shouldn't raise.

I would call though and fold the river UI.

Re: JTo vs loose limper
 

Does anybody raise this PF?