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knifeyspoony 06-08-2006 07:36 AM

Big pots
 
2/4 6 Max, 3 hands I (mis?)played yesterday, all on different tables. Comments appreciated.

Hand 1 - I hadn't been at the table very long, I'd made a few pre-flop raises and hadn't played any big pots. Villain had been making loose calls and weakish bets, I hadn't seen him play a big pot either.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $358
Button: $719.08
SB: $180
Hero: $400

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $14</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($42, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $45</font>, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($132, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $50</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $337</font>

Hand 2 - I'd just sat down, no reads on villain.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $364
CO: $1116.08
Button: $409.20
SB: $163.50
Hero: $400

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $14</font>, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $46</font>, Button calls, SB folds.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($106, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $100</font>, Button calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($306, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button is all-in $259.2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero calls all-in $250</font>.
Uncalled bets: $9.2 returned to Button.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($806, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $806)


Results:
Final pot: $806

Hand 3 - Villain was possibly tilting and out to get me. I'd recently bet him out of a few pots and picked off a decent sized bluff. His pre-flop raising/calling range is very wide here.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $294.70
CO: $742.20
Hero: $564.70
SB: $275.20
BB: $287.20

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $16</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $60</font>, 2 folds, CO calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($126, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $125</font>, CO calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($376, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero is all-in $379.7</font>

(Edited to hide some actions).

GOD et_al 06-08-2006 07:48 AM

Re: Big pots
 
Hand 1.
what does he cold call you with on the flop? there's no draw, it's pretty much a dry board, I think you're pretty much dead here unless this guy calls you with AQ / AJs or whatever. Looks like a smallish PP to me

hand 2.
Can understand your call here

hand 3.
standard...mainly because of the RR call PF. Only AA and AKs beats you here, think that a set is not very likely. Probably QQ or something.

The Iceman 06-08-2006 07:55 AM

Re: Big pots
 
Your game seems alot more 'open' than mine so you might find my analysis weak tight.

Hand 1- check fold this on turn or maybe lead out (opponent dependent and this would be the last $ I pot into that pot).

Hand 2- I don't like raising this type of hand out of the BB against an unknown opponent. After that though you played it fine (though leading the turn works too).

Hand 3- Given your read this is ok.

Reef 06-08-2006 08:11 AM

Re: Big pots
 
hand 1 - very opponent dependant. Don't like doing this against loose callers.

hand 2 - pf, probably make it 50 or 55. Flop is fine, though I don't quite bet $100. Betting out turn is fine too.

hand 3 - fine

knifeyspoony 06-08-2006 11:06 AM

Re: Big pots
 
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I don't like raising this type of hand out of the BB against an unknown opponent. After that though you played it fine (though leading the turn works too)

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I'd expect AQ to be the best hand against a button open-raiser, if I reraise I'll usually be able to take the pot pre-flop or on the flop.

On the turn, does he have A9 or a medium pair often enough for me to call his bet? Wouldn't those hands push the flop if they wanted to continue?

knifeyspoony 06-08-2006 11:07 AM

Re: Big pots
 
[ QUOTE ]
hand 1 - very opponent dependant. Don't like doing this against loose callers.

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What do you put him on? At the time I thought he was quite weak because of his pre-flop limp on the button and his turn bet.

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hand 2 - pf, probably make it 50 or 55.

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I actually did make it $50 pre-flop, I raised to $18 pre-flop in hand 1 too. The converter mustn't have worked properly, not that it makes much difference to how the hands played out.

In hand 3 does anyone check behind on the turn, bearing in mind we have the K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]?

knifeyspoony 06-08-2006 07:16 PM

Results
 
I guess these weren't that interesting, I'd lost the most I had in a single day for a good while so I thought I'd question a couple of hands. It didn't help that I was killed by monster hands in each case.

Hand 1 - Villain called with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] for the straight.

Hand 2 - Villain had a set of 2s.

Hand 3 - Villain called with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] for the flush.


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