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pocketjesuits 06-03-2006 01:14 PM

5/10 6-max - dealing w the reraiser
 
This is somewhat in response to the recent thread about dealing with reraising.

I started playing 6-max recently - i'm playing 30/20, and have found it incredible how often I am getting repopped. I'm not complaining, since it's always the same guys, who are each on a few of my tables. Clearly they realize I have a loose range, but they are simply reraising me far too often. All I have to do is resteal their reraise once every 3-4 times they repop me, or better yet their reraise+continuation bet once every 5-10 times.

The villains in all three of these hands are about 25/16 aggressive multitablers (two of them are the same villain). They've been repopping me alot, and usually I just fold.

Here are some hands:
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Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $1443
UTG+1: $995
CO: $958.75
Button: $940
SB: $1038
BB: $3335.10

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $30</font>, 2 folds, Button calls, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $110</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $275</font>.

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Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $423.39
CO: $935
Button: $1261
Hero: $1134.36
BB: $1426.56

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $35</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $130</font>, Button calls, Hero calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($390, 3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $300</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $1034</font>.

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Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1220
Hero: $1051.75
CO: $1276
Button: $1033
SB: $1223.46
BB: $1000

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $30</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $90</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($195, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $160</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $420</font>,

yvesaint 06-03-2006 02:31 PM

Re: 5/10 6-max - dealing w the reraiser
 
hand 2 is ugly. pf call is meh, whatever w/3way, but hes not betting into a 3-way reraised K-high flop w/AQo

Zep 06-03-2006 02:32 PM

Re: 5/10 6-max - dealing w the reraiser
 
This [censored] is nuts.
Should I be doing more of this?

Dan BRIGHT 06-03-2006 02:33 PM

Re: 5/10 6-max - dealing w the reraiser
 
hand 1 is okay if you know he's a squeezer. Other than that you are practically barfing chips at them and it looks liek you are on tilt.

Cesaro 06-03-2006 03:51 PM

Re: 5/10 6-max - dealing w the reraiser
 
who is villain?

cts 06-03-2006 04:32 PM

Re: 5/10 6-max - dealing w the reraiser
 
Hand 2 is terrible for the reasons mentioned by yves. Hand 3 kinda sucks too.

pocketjesuits 06-03-2006 05:12 PM

Re: 5/10 6-max - dealing w the reraiser
 
Hand 1 was a known squeezer. I usually don't 4-bet bluff, because I don't like 4-betting my big hands - but the presence of the button in the middle changes that.


I thought hand 2 was the most +EV.

The whole point of this is that villain is a light reraiser/squeezer. I fully expect that he would continuation bet with nothing a fair bit of the time. He has air here quite often.

Secondly, i've played my hand like a set and I think I have fold equity on AA/AK, no? This guy can get away from those hands if he thinks that he's beat. Seriously, if you're villain w AK how do you call this? What are you beating? I haven't previously been seen to be out of line postflop. Have I been playing too much full ring? How often does he call w AK? AA?

What part of hand 3 sucks? I knew that he was raising light and would continuation bet at almost any flop that he missed - therefore I called preflop w a speculative hand with the intention of stealing the pot from him on any non-dangerous flop.

Cesaro - i'd rather not divulge screennames

Dan BRIGHT 06-03-2006 05:25 PM

Re: 5/10 6-max - dealing w the reraiser
 
hand 3 you are needlessly and recklessly playing for your stack and you have no outs when called.

This reminds me of my buddy list which features a lot of lagfish. One of my favourite things about many of them is that they will pick random times to bluff and donk off their whole stack to me when I actually have a hand. Sure, sometimes I have king hi and I fold to their aggression.... but it only takes one [censored] up on their part for me to get it all back and then some.

pocketjesuits 06-03-2006 05:33 PM

Re: 5/10 6-max - dealing w the reraiser
 
Well, i've only put in half my stack, and I am definitely not putting in another penny if called. Of course I have no outs - it is a bluff plain and simple. I am investing $420 to win the $350 pot - I am doing this because I think most of his wide reraising range will be unable to call.

FoxwoodsFiend 06-03-2006 05:37 PM

Re: 5/10 6-max - dealing w the reraiser
 
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Secondly, i've played my hand like a set and I think I have fold equity on AA/AK, no?

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Trying to get people to fold TPTK or overpairs in re-raised pots is not prudent.

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Seriously, if you're villain w AK how do you call this? What are you beating?

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Hmm...you could be bluffing, overplaying KQ-KJ or any pocket pair where you figure "if he's got a king, i get stacked but the rest of the time i'll pick up his c-bet and just take the pot down right there." Honestly, you'd have to be insanely tight for me to fold AK here and it doesn't sound like you are.


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