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kazata 06-02-2006 12:07 AM

I know a check-raise indicates strength, but...
 
...folding on the flop cannot possibly be correct here, right?

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif.
UTG calls, [color=#666666]5 folds</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets</font>, [color=#CC3333]BB raises</font>, UTG folds, [color=#CC3333]Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets</font>, [color=#CC3333]BB raises</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero 3-bets</font>, [color=#CC3333]BB caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: (14 BB) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets</font>, [color=#CC3333]BB raises</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls.

Final Pot: 20 BB

JacksonTens 06-02-2006 12:09 AM

Re: I know a check-raise indicates strength, but...
 
This hand plays itself, and you played it fine.

JT

Buckmulligan 06-02-2006 12:09 AM

Re: I know a check-raise indicates strength, but...
 
awful

JJH3984 06-02-2006 12:11 AM

Re: I know a check-raise indicates strength, but...
 
You know its not correct to fold on the flop.

JacksonTens 06-02-2006 12:11 AM

Re: I know a check-raise indicates strength, but...
 
This ahnd plays itself. You played it fine. A call anywhere is gay unless your trapping.

JT

jstill 06-02-2006 12:22 AM

Re: I know a check-raise indicates strength, but...
 
wow even ur title was donkish, there was not one cr in this whole hand lol.... and folding the flop, WHAT???? this whole post was a joke right?

if not im assuming he ended up showing either 33 or 88 he didnt cap the flop with so he could raise the turn then called u a lucky fish right?
folding the flop would be ridiculous yes sometimes ur overpairs run into sets on these innocuous boards thats poker but his flop raise doesnt mean he has a set he could have 99-QQ (higher end unlikely didnt 3 bet pre) or any 8 or worse! ud give up so much folding only 3 hands bet u on the flop assumin he doesnt call out of the big with 83 8 2 or 32 which suited they may but against those u have 5 outs now and likely another 3 after the turn if they dont fill out

btw i love seeing these bigger pairs hit 2 outters against lower pairs that flop sets ( unless its against me obviously)

kazata 06-02-2006 12:41 AM

Re: I know a check-raise indicates strength, but...
 
[ QUOTE ]
wow even ur title was donkish, there was not one cr in this whole hand lol.... and folding the flop, WHAT???? this whole post was a joke right?

if not im assuming he ended up showing either 33 or 88 he didnt cap the flop with so he could raise the turn then called u a lucky fish right?
folding the flop would be ridiculous yes sometimes ur overpairs run into sets on these innocuous boards thats poker but his flop raise doesnt mean he has a set he could have 99-QQ (higher end unlikely didnt 3 bet pre) or any 8 or worse! ud give up so much folding only 3 hands bet u on the flop &lt;b&gt;assumin he doesnt call out of the big with 83 8 2 or 32&lt;/b&gt; which suited they may but against those u have 5 outs now and likely another 3 after the turn if they dont fill out

btw i love seeing these bigger pairs hit 2 outters against lower pairs that flop sets ( unless its against me obviously)

[/ QUOTE ]

Exactly what he did. Besides, I wouldn't fold on the flop here, but I have no clue what kind of mistakes I'm making and I'm making sure that this isn't one of them. Just a general inquiry...

SukitTrebek 06-02-2006 12:43 AM

Re: I know a check-raise indicates strength, but...
 
If you're seriously asking, you should pick up some books, starting with Small Stakes Holdem.

And where was the c/r?

Douglas Leslie 06-02-2006 02:09 AM

Re: I know a check-raise indicates strength, but...
 
Is there a problem with the hand convertor since it seems to have omitted BB and UTG's original checks on the flop? I ask because the same thing happened to me when I posted a hand a couple of days ago- the first couple of flop bets did not appear.
As for the original question, a lot of players play any pair aggressively against a pre-flop raise when the board is like this. They figure you have missed the flop. Unless you know that your opponent is a super rock who would never check raise with less than two pair, you have to re-raise here. I might slow down if the betting is capped though. No way is this hand not going to showdown.

NeedAJoker 06-02-2006 02:14 AM

Re: I know a check-raise indicates strength, but...
 
It just looks like he didnt switch it to 2+2 forum style, I did the same thing earlier tonight and got the same results, but I could be wrong.


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