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fluff 05-28-2006 01:43 AM

Internet (casino) gambling cautionary tale.
 
Seeing how many people are interested in chasing casino bonuses, I thought I'd do a public announcement. Have a read at this guys blog (apparently a former casino employee):

http://carlhutton.eponym.com/blog/_a...4/1981778.html

Moral of the story:

1) Before playing a casino, research it's reputation first. Even casinos using the same software vary differently in integrity. A simple google search on the casino name is minimum, and swing by Casinomeister.com to see if they are on the rogue list is mandatory.

Here is another sad tale. In this one, a guy had the Terms and Conditions changed on him less than a day after he read it, but unfortunately before he deposited. Cost to him, about 8000 GBP. And this was at one of the most reputable names out there.

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/onli...-wiinnings.html

Moral of the story:

2) Before playing a casino, make sure you follow all Terms and Conditions and check them right before you make your deposit/bonus claim. Take screenshots and save them until you get paid. However, even when not claiming a bonus, many casinos will disqualify you and keep your money if you are found in violation of T&C. These included being underage, differences in address, inability to furnish documents, etc etc. So be sure to cover your butt.

IggyWH 05-28-2006 01:47 AM

Re: Internet (casino) gambling cautionary tale.
 
Let me also add that anytime you play at a casino, you should somehow save the T&C incase of a dispute.

fluff 05-28-2006 01:52 AM

Re: Internet (casino) gambling cautionary tale.
 
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Let me also add that anytime you play at a casino, you should somehow save the T&C incase of a dispute.

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I said that! [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Also important: a lot of casinos have very confusing T&C. Some have terms spread out over many pages, and relevant info is not always on the same paragraph/page. For example, the wagering requirement might be on one section, then restricted games somewhere else entirely, then yet somewhere else you'll see that "bonus are for wagering purposes only", etc.

Before you do a bonus make sure you understand 100% what is required. If you don't ask first.

BigF 05-28-2006 05:27 PM

Re: Internet (casino) gambling cautionary tale.
 
I lost all my respect/trust for CM after I read through the thread. Bryan kept dissing the player and saying "what precedent would it create?" What a crock of shiiit. What precedent? The house has a bigger than 3% edge and the wagering doesn't count towards WR. Yet Bryan states "the casino would run their business into the ground should they allow this".

Also Bryan repeatedly says the player still has 200 + 200 = 400 pounds in her account and can have "another go" at it. At what though? Running 400 pounds up to 8,000 pounds on video poker and slots?

The Man in Black 05-28-2006 06:54 PM

Re: Internet (casino) gambling cautionary tale.
 
That was a pretty low move on Trident Lounges part. Terms that are posted to the website should have a short grace period.

bpb 05-28-2006 06:58 PM

Re: Internet (casino) gambling cautionary tale.
 
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I lost all my respect/trust for CM after I read through the thread.

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Ditto

LinusKS 05-28-2006 09:59 PM

Re: Internet (casino) gambling cautionary tale.
 
It's also important to remember there are no regulations and no one to appeal to, and that most casinos have a term somewhere that says (in effect), "We can do whatever we want, and there's nothing you can do about it."

IggyWH 05-28-2006 10:22 PM

Re: Internet (casino) gambling cautionary tale.
 
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It's also important to remember there are no regulations and no one to appeal to, and that most casinos have a term somewhere that says (in effect), "We can do whatever we want, and there's nothing you can do about it."

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That's not exactly true. RTG has Montana, Playtech has their own and MG has eCobra that are setup to take complaints from users of casinos in that software group. Then, there's people who hold major weight in the industry like casinomeister. All of these forces work to regulate internet gambling.

Rogue is rogue though and you should never play on a rogue casino. Sucks what happened to the user in the thread posted, but they're the ones that tried following old T&C and you can't blame the casino for enforcing their latest T&C. Nor do I think you can blame CM for siding with the casino on this one.

LinusKS 05-28-2006 10:42 PM

Re: Internet (casino) gambling cautionary tale.
 
eCobra and the others are bought and paid for by the casinos, aren't they?

Has eCobra ever come down on the side of a player?

IggyWH 05-28-2006 10:52 PM

Re: Internet (casino) gambling cautionary tale.
 
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eCobra and the others are bought and paid for by the casinos, aren't they?

Has eCobra ever come down on the side of a player?

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eCobra mainly does MG and they are owned & operated by MG. I don't know much about disputes so I can't say if they usually side with the casinos. I do know that you have very few problems with MG casinos thought.


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