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Bluffoon 05-25-2006 02:18 AM

2/4 AQo in a big multi way pot
 
Average pretty much straightforward 2/4 crowd. Mostly on the loose passive side but nothing too extreme.

I get A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in the Hijack.

UTG, UTG+1 and MP3 all call, I raise, the button cold calls, blinds fold everbody else calls.

We go 5 to the flop with 11.5sb in the middle.

J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, MP3 Calls, I raise, the button cold calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 3 bets, MP3 calls two more cold, I call, button calls.

We go four to the turn with 11.75 BBs in the middle.

Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Checked to me. I bet, button calls, UTG+1 calls, MP3 raises, I fold.

Let me have it.

Edit for flop action.

JacksonTens 05-25-2006 03:02 AM

Re: 2/4 AQo in a big multi way pot
 
Why bet/fold the turn? fair enough the bet, but I'd call for the K, yeah you might split. But the pot is massive.

JT

crablegs33 05-25-2006 03:03 AM

Re: 2/4 AQo in a big multi way pot
 
agreed... huge pot here...

Bluffoon 05-25-2006 03:09 AM

Re: 2/4 AQo in a big multi way pot
 
Im goin' with I had a seizure. I can't think of a better explanation. Looks good till the fold?

James. 05-25-2006 09:55 AM

Re: 2/4 AQo in a big multi way pot
 
you must call that turn raise. you can fold the river UI, but you have odds to draw to the gutshot for one more.

poboys 05-25-2006 10:49 AM

Re: 2/4 AQo in a big multi way pot
 
Why raise the flop? You aren't going to clean up any Q or A outs, you probably don't have the best hand at this point (with a loose passive betting into you), any OESD will still have odds to chase, getting three-bet really sucks here.

I'd call the flop, and raise the turn on a Q or and A, otherwise fold.

tsrcess 05-25-2006 10:50 AM

Re: 2/4 AQo in a big multi way pot
 
well, i'm not raising this flop and i'll tell you why. when the 10,j,x (r) falls with 4 other players, my absolute best hope is my gutshot to the nuts. any ace or any queen is problematic in the sense that one of the others could easily make 2 pair (if they don't have it already) or even broadway. even if i were to backdoor 2 pair, all they would need is one stinking k to beat me...the flop will chill my action for sure....

Bluffoon 05-25-2006 12:41 PM

Re: 2/4 AQo in a big multi way pot
 
Anybody else not like the flop raise?

I can't fold and raising gives me a chance at the button and a free card option. I frequently raise in situations like this. Is this a leak?

Should I have taken the free card even though I improved? I figured I had to charge any draws in case I was ahead. Too remote?

Also how bad is the turn fold? I know the pot is huge but the K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] is tainted and even when I hit I am going to split quite a bit.

freedom18 05-25-2006 12:42 PM

Re: 2/4 AQo in a big multi way pot
 
the line was very nice
raise pre flop raise flop (coordinated + continuation of pf aggression)maybe folds sum people etc
then the Q comes i think for bet again, call down if u get re raised at this point

poboys 05-25-2006 03:34 PM

Re: 2/4 AQo in a big multi way pot
 
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Also how bad is the turn fold? I know the pot is huge but the K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] is tainted and even when I hit I am going to split quite a bit.

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If you didn't raise the flop (and got three bet), and woke up when the Q spiked, it'd be a pretty safe fold to aggression on the turn.


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