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NoahSD 05-23-2006 08:31 PM

TPTK Slowplay
 
PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t6285)
UTG+1 (t4740)
MP1 (t1395)
MP2 (t3045)
Hero (t2595)
CO (t4420)
Button (t2490)
SB (t2450)
BB (t5440)

Preflop: Hero is in MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, UTG+1 calls t150, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t600</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t525, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>

Flop: (t1500) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Edit: Note SB's stack.

JeanieJ 05-23-2006 08:35 PM

Re: TPTK Slowplay
 
I like it. You give your opponent a chance to bet for the check raise. You're also giving him a chance to hit the turn and call off some of his chips.

The only problem I see is that once in awhile you'll run into a set here and you wont be able to get away. The question is, if you bet instead of check... are you getting away from a set? Or are you prepared to get your chips in with TPTK on this board?

NHFunkii 05-23-2006 08:38 PM

Re: TPTK Slowplay
 
standard

schavuit 05-23-2006 08:57 PM

Re: TPTK Slowplay
 
[ QUOTE ]
The only problem I see is that once in awhile you'll run into a set here and you wont be able to get away. The question is, if you bet instead of check... are you getting away from a set? Or are you prepared to get your chips in with TPTK on this board?

[/ QUOTE ]

pot 1500, you have about 1900 left and you hit this board. The chance i'm getting away from this without a very specific read is really really small. You're gonna get everything in here, this is about extracting maximum value. Not about trying hard to find a reason to fold. I like the check, pretty standard indeed.

Bakes 05-23-2006 09:06 PM

Re: TPTK Slowplay
 
[ QUOTE ]
standard

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Yep, when he puts you in on the turn, laugh as you beat his 33.

NoahSD 05-23-2006 09:14 PM

Re: TPTK Slowplay
 
[ QUOTE ]
standard

[/ QUOTE ]

Cool. How many hands do I have to play before I can recognize all standard spots?

Bullet_Dodger 05-23-2006 09:23 PM

Re: TPTK Slowplay
 
[ QUOTE ]
The only problem I see is that once in awhile you'll run into a set here and you wont be able to get away. The question is, if you bet instead of check... are you getting away from a set? Or are you prepared to get your chips in with TPTK on this board?

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Pot = 1500
Stack Left = 1900
TPTK
No Read

I'm getting this in every single time. I like the check by the way. With this board I dont see many worse hands calling, and I dont see any "scare cards". Let the opponent get himself commited on the turn.

jeffman 05-23-2006 09:35 PM

Re: TPTK Slowplay
 
I don't think this is as standard as some are saying. I don't mind the check here but you don't want to make your play to obvious b/c a bet here will help protect your future C-bets. I would probably check here 65% of the time and throw out a 1/2 - 3/5 pot bet the rest of the time.

05-23-2006 09:46 PM

Re: TPTK Slowplay
 
I like this given Villain's stack. But the move I like even more is the "really weak" lead. I think it gets more out of Villain when he has complete air.

Lurshy 05-23-2006 09:49 PM

Re: TPTK Slowplay
 
I'll take the Con: I bet.

Especially if you make continuation bets when you miss, make a bet when you hit. Yeah if he totally missed and isn't going to bluff he gets away, but if he is huggin a pocket pair or has some funky draw, you get him to commit. Checking is a-suspicious, b-gives free card, c-the guy gets away from it on the turn anyway d-you just got pwned

You can make it look weak 4-600 or all-in given the stack sizes, but I see no reason to ket tricky even on a benign board.


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