Fold an overpair to a minraise here? Stars $105 turbo
 

He was the preflop raiser. His actions corresponded to an overpair. I don't think AK minraises there. I felt like he was trying to value bet me? Thoughts?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1500)
Hero (t1490)
MP1 (t1210)
MP2 (t1880)
MP3 (t1040)
CO (t2160)
Button (t1145)
SB (t2245)
BB (t830)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG+1 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, Hero calls t30, <font color="red">MP1 raises to t120</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, MP3 calls t120, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, Hero calls t90

Flop: (t405) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t200</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises to t400</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>

Re: Fold an overpair to a minraise here? Stars $105 turbo
 

I concur, even though it is a small raise, he has shown strength, no reason to bust with this hand.

Re: Fold an overpair to a minraise here? Stars $105 turbo
 

Yeah you have to fold this.

Ryan

Re: Fold an overpair to a minraise here? Stars $105 turbo
 

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Yeah you have to fold this.

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Do you put him on an overpair here? I guess there is no reason not to. I mean he could be making a move but I doubt it. I had never seen him before; or atleast he was not a regular.

Re: Fold an overpair to a minraise here? Stars $105 turbo
 

I might even check/fold this, it just seems so rare to take it down.

Re: Fold an overpair to a minraise here? Stars $105 turbo
 

Fold. I don't think he's stupid enough to try to bluff 2 people with AK.

Re: Fold an overpair to a minraise here? Stars $105 turbo
 

Fold preflop. Checkfold flop.

Re: Fold an overpair to a minraise here? Stars $105 turbo
 

you play bad...stop giving terrible advice!

Re: Fold an overpair to a minraise here? Stars $105 turbo
 

Who's gimmick account is this?

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Who's gimmick account is this?

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What the hell? I can't believe you fold 88 given a small raise! That's about as weak as it gets! Has anyone ever explained "implied odds" to you? I guess not.

Re: Fold an overpair to a minraise here? Stars $105 turbo
 

You realize you don't stack someone everytime you flop a set.

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You realize you don't stack someone everytime you flop a set.

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Errrm, what kind of post is this? Are you advocating folding SETS now?? What a [censored].

Re: Fold an overpair to a minraise here? Stars $105 turbo
 

You said a preflop fold was bad because of "implied odds" I responded by saying, you realize you don't stack someone everytime you flop a set. I actually have no idea who you inferred the idea that I suggested folding sets.

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You said a preflop fold was bad because of "implied odds" I responded by saying, you realize you don't stack someone everytime you flop a set. I actually have no idea who you inferred the idea that I suggested folding sets.

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You obviously need to do a LOT more reading to understand the poker concepts I am throwing at you. But don't be discouraged, you are among the other 99% of this forum who also don't get it.

Re: Fold an overpair to a minraise here? Stars $105 turbo
 

I probably play this about the same way, except I'll generally bet a little more on the flop. After you're raised, I think it's a clear fold.

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You said a preflop fold was bad because of "implied odds" I responded by saying, you realize you don't stack someone everytime you flop a set. I actually have no idea who you inferred the idea that I suggested folding sets.

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You obviously need to do a LOT more reading to understand the poker concepts I am throwing at you. But don't be discouraged, you are among the other 99% of this forum who also don't get it.

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Please stop posting here. Flop is a clear fold and I think lead fold is just spewing. Check fold definetly is better. PF also very well could be a fold because you're oop and are putting in about 8% of your stack just playing for set value.

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Please stop posting here. Flop is a clear fold and I think lead fold is just spewing. Check fold definetly is better. PF also very well could be a fold because you're oop and are putting in about 8% of your stack just playing for set value.

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hes either a gimmick acct (SHOW YOURSELF!) or an idiot....dont bother with it. yeah, personally i call here a large % of the time preflop, but i almost always shut down to this action.

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His actions corresponded to an overpair. I don't think AK minraises there. I felt like he was trying to value bet me?

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pretty easy fold then...

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Please stop posting here. Flop is a clear fold and I think lead fold is just spewing. Check fold definetly is better. PF also very well could be a fold because you're oop and are putting in about 8% of your stack just playing for set value.

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1. You aren't putting in 8% of your stack every time. He's calling for 2% of his stack, then calling the raise for another 6%.
2. I think not making some attempt at the pot when you have an overpair is ridiculously weak. Check folding to a pre-flop raiser makes the game so easy for him.