($114) Push Good Buddy on bubble?
 

Opponent seems sorta average I guess?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t400 with t25 antes (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t5795)
Button (t1655)
Hero (t3615)
BB (t2435)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero ?

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Well then put him on a sorta average you guess range and plug it into SNGPT.

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I'd fold there and then push any 2 next orbit if folded around. The button is short enough that you can wait here I think. However, the BB knows this too and will be very reluctant to play anything that isn't a big hand pre. It's probably even hard for him to call with AJ if he knows what he is doing. Depends how loose he is. Average 105 player might call with something like AJ there but hard to say. Hope this helps.

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It's not that simple. It is obviously +EV for any resonable range. You need to analyze the chip stacks as well IMO.

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Dude?

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It's not that simple. It is obviously +EV for any resonable range. You need to analyze the chip stacks as well IMO.

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Yeah, I didn't notice that shorty was sitting with ~4xBB.

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What?

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Was in reply to OP.

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I shove, most of time

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Was in reply to OP.

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What?

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Bro?

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Opponent seems sorta average I guess?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t400 with t25 antes (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t5795)
Button (t1655)
Hero (t3615)
BB (t2435)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero ?

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I just fold it because I don't trust him to be smart about calling. Might be wrong, though.

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Opponent seems sorta average I guess?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t400 with t25 antes (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t5795)
Button (t1655)
Hero (t3615)
BB (t2435)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero ?

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I just fold it because I don't trust him to be smart about calling. Might be wrong, though.

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What do you mean smart enough to call? He's smart to fold 90% of hands here.

*** I didn't mean for it to be colored... ***

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Opponent seems sorta average I guess?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t400 with t25 antes (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t5795)
Button (t1655)
Hero (t3615)
BB (t2435)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero ?

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I just fold it because I don't trust him to be smart about calling. Might be wrong, though.

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What do you mean smart enough to call? He's smart to fold 90% of hands here.

*** I didn't mean for it to be colored... ***

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<font color="black"> My point was we don't know if he's smart enough to fold 90%. </font>

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I just fold it because I don't trust him to be smart about calling. Might be wrong, though.

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Unless you had been pushing like crazy here. This is an autoshove.

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Unless you had been pushing like crazy here. This is an autoshove.

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your retarded

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Unless you had been pushing like crazy here. This is an autoshove.

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your retarded

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And you just discovered a huge leak in your game.

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Unless you had been pushing like crazy here. This is an autoshove.

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your retarded

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And you just discovered a huge leak in your game.

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Yah, because 10 4 offsuit is DA NUTS!!!

Gimme a break, that's an AWFUL hand to play all your chips with!

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Unless you had been pushing like crazy here. This is an autoshove.

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your retarded

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Yah, because 10 4 offsuit is DA NUTS!!!

Gimme a break, that's an AWFUL hand to play all your chips with!

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You clearly don't understand basic sng concepts. Such as folding equity, and ICM.

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My point was we don't know if he's smart enough to fold 90%.

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Bingo... any reads?

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Unless you had been pushing like crazy here. This is an autoshove.

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your retarded

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And you just discovered a huge leak in your game.

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Yah, because 10 4 offsuit is DA NUTS!!!

Gimme a break, that's an AWFUL hand to play all your chips with!

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You clearly don't understand basic sng concepts. Such as folding equity, and ICM.

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[sarcasm] I see you win a lot [/sarcasm]

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If he is calling with
22+,A2+,K5o+,K2s+,QTo+,Q8s+,J9s+
It is still a +EV push.

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Unless you had been pushing like crazy here. This is an autoshove.

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your retarded

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And you just discovered a huge leak in your game.

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Yah, because 10 4 offsuit is DA NUTS!!!

Gimme a break, that's an AWFUL hand to play all your chips with!

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You clearly don't understand basic sng concepts. Such as folding equity, and ICM.

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I see you win a lot

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FYP

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If he is calling with
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It is still a +EV push.

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You suck at life

Care to explain why this is a bad push? Outside of OMFG you have 104o your hand sucks.

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You suck at life

Care to explain why this is a bad push? Outside of OMFG you have 104o your hand sucks.

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I think you have it all covered in the above post.

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If he is calling with
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It is still a +EV push.

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I'll be sure to tell Eastbay you think his software is wrong.

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If he is calling with
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It is still a +EV push.

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I'll be sure to tell Eastbay you think his software is wrong.

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I'll tell anyone they are wrong if you think any of the above hands are better than 10 4 offsuit! LOL

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If he is calling with
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It is still a +EV push.

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I'll be sure to tell Eastbay you think his software is wrong.

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I'll tell anyone they are wrong if you think any of the above hands are better than 10 4 offsuit! LOL

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Are you retarted?
I said
If villian were calling with 22+,A2+,K5o+,K2s+,QTo+,Q8s+,J9s+ you should still be pushing 104o according to SNGPT.
Nowhere did I say that 104o was better than those hands.

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If he is calling with
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I'll be sure to tell Eastbay you think his software is wrong.

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I'll tell anyone they are wrong if you think any of the above hands are better than 10 4 offsuit! LOL

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Are you retarted?


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No, but you are if you want a showdown with 10 4 offsuit!

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If he is calling with
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I'll be sure to tell Eastbay you think his software is wrong.

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I'll tell anyone they are wrong if you think any of the above hands are better than 10 4 offsuit! LOL

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Are you retarted?


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No, but you are if you want a showdown with 10 4 offsuit!

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I don't want a showdown the bb is folding enough to make this +EV.

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If he is calling with
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I'll be sure to tell Eastbay you think his software is wrong.

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I'll tell anyone they are wrong if you think any of the above hands are better than 10 4 offsuit! LOL

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Are you retarted?


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No, but you are if you want a showdown with 10 4 offsuit!

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I don't want a showdown the bb is folding enough to make this +EV.

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Dumb.

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This argument needs to be settled immeadiately. "Suck at life" and Suckaa. You suck. You have no idea what you are talking about and the regular you are arguing with is right. He doesn't want a showdown with T4o, he want's BB to fold and he will do that often enough. If you have any brains, think about it for a minute before you make another retarded reply. Downswings really get to me...

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Can you suck at life and Suck AA please be banned immediately and btw Pudge don't waste you're time explaining it to these morons.

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I just fold it because I don't trust him to be smart about calling. Might be wrong, though.

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Are you pulling a "tigerite" on us [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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Not sure what that means. Wouldn't tigerite post a detailed SNGPT analysis and ream me out for even considering folding a +0.1% edge?

Seriously, it's probably just me, but most Villains are sick of me pushing and it can't be a huge mistake to fold this if he is going to call loose and that way I can maintain some semblance of an image. But not everybody's insane about pushing like me.

So ignore my advice if you're not me, I guess. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Pudge, i think you are getting trolled here. At least i hope thats whats going on.

Results
 

Well...

He called w/ AJo (is that a good call?)

I sucked out on him hahahah.

Ryan

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I just fold it because I don't trust him to be smart about calling. Might be wrong, though.

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Not sure what that means. Wouldn't tigerite post a detailed SNGPT analysis and ream me out for even considering folding a +0.1% edge?

Seriously, it's probably just me, but most Villains are sick of me pushing and it can't be a huge mistake to fold this if he is going to call loose and that way I can maintain some semblance of an image. But not everybody's insane about pushing like me.

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Hey, that's cool.

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If he is calling with
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I'll be sure to tell Eastbay you think his software is wrong.

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I'll tell anyone they are wrong if you think any of the above hands are better than 10 4 offsuit! LOL

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Are you retarted?


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No, but you are if you want a showdown with 10 4 offsuit!

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Go back to OOT forum, where you obviously belong.