Logical explanation why party will not open more 5/10 & 10/20NL tables
 

20+ people on the waiting list during peak hours. Why!? Enlighten me please..

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This has been addressed before numerous times. New players will go broke faster at 5/10 & 10/20 than at lower stakes which means less rake, additionally, additional tables mean more SH & HU tables which most beginners are even more vulnerable at and again, they get gutted faster equating to less rake. Also additional server capacity & bandwidth just for 2-3 hours a day is expensive, people outside of the industry often vastly underestimate the costs of datacenter operations & Gibraltar can't be the cheapest spot in the world for this either. It's a logical business decision from Party's viewpoint.

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i remember the old days when people were bitching and moaning about how party needs more NL 200 tables back when NL 200 was the highest NL stakes (blinds 2/4). ahhh those were the days!!

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yeah, till one day they are being spread and all your theory is in the toilet, people said the same thing on 50bb party 1/2nl days 3 6max tables

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They don't want fish 9 tabling 10 20 and going BUSTO in a day

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And Party resisted offering 5/10 NL for a long time til ALL their major competitors (Stars, Full Tilt, UB & Prima) had it and business started to go elsewhere. Right now however, there is very little market for games above 10/20 (including 10/25 in 10/20) as evidenced by the fact that there is rarely more than 2 or 3 of these fully populated at any one time across all the sites that offer them.

Don't strain yourself using that teeny brain Thundercats, if you think Party isn't making these decisions for pretty rational reasons with all the data they have at their disposal to do so you're even dumber than I think which honestly is pretty protohuman already. Doubtless Party will offer bigger games at some point if the market continues to expand but more 10/20 tables are likely in the near future but likely just a few additional tables at a time as they add servers/bandwidth.

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This has been addressed before numerous times. New players will go broke faster at 5/10 & 10/20 than at lower stakes which means less rake, additionally, additional tables mean more SH & HU tables which most beginners are even more vulnerable at and again, they get gutted faster equating to less rake. Also additional server capacity & bandwidth just for 2-3 hours a day is expensive, people outside of the industry often vastly underestimate the costs of datacenter operations & Gibraltar can't be the cheapest spot in the world for this either. It's a logical business decision from Party's viewpoint.

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I agree that the bad players will go broke faster ... it still boggles my mind that inexperienced players would jump into the Party 5/10 or 10/20 game though.

As for datacenter/bandwidth concerns ... the servers for North America aren't in Gibraltar and online poker doesn't use squat for bandwidth.

mj

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yeah, till one day they are being spread and all your theory is in the toilet, people said the same thing on 50bb party 1/2nl days 3 6max tables

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i would imagine that for most people in the real world, losing 1-2k may not be that big of a deal. losing 10-20k probably is.

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I dont know but I still think Party would make more money if they opened a couple extra tables.

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At the 1K and 2K tables are there any games anywhere online anymore where people are routinely reraising all in with Ax preflop in 4 person pots, and being called by KQo, etc?

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I dont know but I still think I would make more money if they opened a couple extra tables.

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Doubtless Party will offer bigger games at some point if the market continues to expand but more 10/20 tables are likely in the near future but likely just a few additional tables at a time as they add servers/bandwidth.

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If servers/bandwidth were the issue, we would see huge waiting lists for the smaller games. That doesn't happen.

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I think I might be in trouble if they open up 25/50 or 50/100

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I think I might be in trouble if they open up 25/50 or 50/100

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If I were you I wouldn't play that high. I could see you dropping six figures in a few hours if things go against you. Same goes for me.

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I think I might be in trouble if they open up 25/50 or 50/100

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Put some 'tilt money' on UB for a rainy day.

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Fill out the new party survey and let your thoughts be known.

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it still boggles my mind that inexperienced players would jump into the Party 5/10 or 10/20 game though.

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To make more money faster- not everyone looks at it from a disciplined bankrolled viewpoint; some people just like to gamble it up, and cry about it in the morning. You need to identify these people and make the necessary changes to your game to exploit them.

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Right now however, there is very little market for games above 10/20 (including 10/25 in 10/20) as evidenced by the fact that there is rarely more than 2 or 3 of these fully populated at any one time across all the sites that offer them.

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Those other sites are not Party though. If Party opened up 20/40 tables, people would play them. I don't know if it is good for their business.. but I don't think there would be any problem getting 4 or 5 full tables going during peak hours.

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they want to keep the customers in their rake cycle for as long as possible while maintaining the food chain. if they opened up as many 5/10 tables possible, many small timers will try to gamble it up/ take shot and go broke, which will kill mid stakes games and ultimately will kill the high stakes games.