Willie Randolph is terrible
 

I'm not as knowledgeable about baseball as many posters on this board, but TWICE intentionally walking Bonds WITH A MAN ON FIRST to face Moises Alou has to be among the most terrible decisions you could make as a manager, right?

Dear Willie,

It's 2006, not 2001.

Sincerely,
A Concerned Mets fan.

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The first intentional walk wasn't that horrible because Glavine had already gone 3-0 on Bonds. You don't want to give Bonds a chance to swing at one of Glavine's meaty fastballs.

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With a man on 1st? That is really atrocious.

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The first intentional walk wasn't that horrible because Glavine had already gone 3-0 on Bonds. You don't want to give Bonds a chance to swing at one of Glavine's meaty fastballs.

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ah, thank you, this is what happens when you miss the game and catch up by reading the play by play/box score.

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In Willie's defense, he has to trot out Endy Chavez in CF while Beltran is out. Oh yeah...Milledge is hitting .404/.524/.625 at AAA...

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Let's not talk about it. It's getting sincerely painful to watch.
-James

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Why did I think this thread was about Wilma Rudolph?

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The first intentional walk wasn't that horrible because Glavine had already gone 3-0 on Bonds. You don't want to give Bonds a chance to swing at one of Glavine's meaty fastballs.

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Yeah, there's no reason to try to get back in the count against Bonds by throwing him 3 fastballs. Yeesh.

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In Willie's defense, he has to trot out Endy Chavez in CF while Beltran is out. Oh yeah...Milledge is hitting .404/.524/.625 at AAA...

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An argument could be made that the problem with bringing Milledge up right now is that there is potential to "set him back a bit".

I dunno though. That kid can play, he proved it in Spring Training and he continues to prove it in Norfolk. If Beltran lands on the DL with his vagina injurty the Mets should really consider giving this kid some playing time in Queens.

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A nice little tidbit on Lastings:
I played against him in high school, he played for our rivals.
He got suspended the last year for having a little too much fun with an 8th grader [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

He was amazing though. Led the county in Homers, Steals, everything.

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He got suspended the last year for having a little too much fun with an 8th grader

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Was she hot?

Anyway, yeah I knew about that. I'm pretty sure that dropped him a few spots in the draft which allowed the Mets to pick him up at #12.

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I don't really know what she looked like.
It was a Christian school, so it was a big scandal/story.
It was a main reason why the Devil Rays didn't draft him.

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Yeah, well I'm really glad they didn't draft him.

That .524 OBP is sick. I can't wait till he takes the leadoff spot away from Reyes next year. Of course Randolph will screw that one up too.

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He doesn't project to have a very good OBP, though you can't do worse than Reyes.

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you can't do worse than Reyes.

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Exactly. Where did you see his projected OBP? The guy was about .400 in AA last year, .350 in spring training this year.

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I meant more that he won't walk too much, opposed to he won't have a high OBP.

BP projects him to be a .260/.320 for the next 4 years with decent power, though good power for a CF.

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Exactly. Where did you see his projected OBP? The guy was about .400 in AA last year, .350 in spring training this year.

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Milledge is good, but a lot of his OBP comes from high batting averages by simply making contact and beating out the throw. That won't work against big league infielders, not to mention that he's going to have to face more nasty curveballs and things that will miss bats.

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In Willie's defense, he has to trot out Endy Chavez in CF while Beltran is out. Oh yeah...Milledge is hitting .404/.524/.625 at AAA...

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An argument could be made that the problem with bringing Milledge up right now is that there is potential to "set him back a bit".

I dunno though. That kid can play, he proved it in Spring Training and he continues to prove it in Norfolk. If Beltran lands on the DL with his vagina injurty the Mets should really consider giving this kid some playing time in Queens.

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Is there any evidence that position players can be negatively affected by a few MLB ABs slightly before they are ready? I could see this with pitchers, but I don't think this is a good reason to hold a hitter back.

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Two words: Corey Patterson.

Alternatively: Kevin Maas

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Two words: Corey Patterson.

Alternatively: Kevin Maas

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kevin maas was 25 when he got is first ML ab, i dont think that was the problem with him.

cosidering pattersons great defense in CF, he was a good MLB player in 2003/2004 at the ages of 23 and 24, certainly better than anything else the cubs could have put out those two years (AFAIK).

he was awful last year, but i dont think that has anything to do with playing 2002 in chicago.

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Am I the only one that feels that Beltran, when healthy, could be the Mets best leadoff batter? I understand about how much he is being paid and he is supposed to be the three hitter, but with as much power as we have I think him in the leadoff spot would be best for the team.

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You certainly aren't the only one that thinks that. Beltran would probably be a fine leadoff hitter.

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You certainly aren't the only one that thinks that. Beltran would probably be a fine leadoff hitter.

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anybody but reyes.

BP did a study in BBTN which said that lineups dont matter much UNLESS you do something moronic. batting reyes in the one hole constitutes moronic. loduca #2 seems a little odd also, but whatever at least they dont have wright batting 7.

putting the 06 version of bonds on when 1st base is occupied is retarded.

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putting the 06 version of bonds on when 1st base is occupied is retarded.

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BUT HE"S DUE FOR A BREAK-OUT GAME!!!!!!

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Bonds' BA is up to .231, and his SLG .462. The "06" Bonds is probably not that far off from the "05" Bonds...

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Bonds' BA is up to .231, and his SLG .462. The "06" Bonds is probably not that far off from the "05" Bonds...

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And his OBP is .500+ or something. I'll take it.

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It was great when Bonds was 2-for-12 with 8 walks and a .500 OBP

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It was great when Bonds was 2-for-12 with 8 walks and a .500 OBP

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There was a period of time last year when Brian Giles reached base safely for 3 weeks straight and had an OBP of something like .850.

The best lines are 0-1, 3 BB which I keep seeing Brian Giles and Jason Bay put up. The difference is that Jason Bay is a lot better and faster baserunner (nearly stole at a 100% success rate last year with 20+ steals, only caught once).

Jason Bay is the new Brian Giles - hopefully Bay isn't caught playing on a [censored] team for the rest of his life. To this day I mourn the loss of Brian Giles from the Indians, but there was absolutely nowhere to play the kid.

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OT - speaking of Jason Bay, whats up with Canadians getting a late start on baseball...? Gagne, Bay, Matt Stairs, all starting peaking in their late 20's.

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It's a shorter season up north. See also: Larry Walker.