5-5NL hand at the bike... crosspost... AQs deep stacks
 

This is a crosspost from MSNL feel free to delete mods if this is innapropriate but i want to hear what this board thinks. here ya go:
Ok. I have ~1400 button covers. SB has ~500. I am two to the right of the CO holding A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Button is a very tricky player who seems to have a read on me and likes bluff on the river.

Preflop: 3 limpers I make it 50, button calls, SB calls, limpers all call.

Pot ~305 Flop:
A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB bets 30, folds to me I raise it to 150 button calls, sb calls.

Turn:9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Pot ~755
Checks around.

River 10[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Checks to button who bets 200 SB folds I call.

On the turn I think its push or check call. The only way I can push anyone off a SD is pushing. Button having a 9 or a FH caused me to check. River I call while throwing up. Any thoughts?

edit for spelling
edit 2 just saw that for some reason the suits didnt show up.

Re: 5-5NL hand at the bike... crosspost... AQs deep stacks
 

I assume A89rainbow. Button really shouldn't have a 9 unless he's a complete and total fish. I think you should bet turn, but I don't know if you have to shove.

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I assume A89rainbow. Button really shouldn't have a 9 unless he's a complete and total fish. I think you should bet turn, but I don't know if you have to shove.

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sorry copy pasted directly from thread forgot about suits... fixed.

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Why are you puking? You got to showdown pretty cheap. Puke when the button bets $800.

This is read dependant. Does the button call with sets/two pair on dangerous flops like that? Does he float with trash in multiway pots? Does he call your raise on flop with a good ace? Does he re-raise with AK? Does he call raises with A9 or A8?

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What kind of hand do you think would have improved with the nine. I really feel like you are still good here. I bet this turn as long as I have a plan in case button went all in. I would probably bet 400 on the turn (SB only has 300 left so I def want him all in cuz you haven't given a read on him so I'll assume he's a donk). If Button goes all in, its very read dependent, but I would lean towards calling cuz he's tricky and probably bluffs to much (but I think more info is needed).

As played you should be perfectly happy calling a $200 bet into a $755 pot with your hand. And you said he bluffs a lot rivers. I really don't put him on a 9, so the hands that I would expect to have you beat are AK or A10.

Re: 5-5NL hand at the bike... crosspost... AQs deep stacks
 

Looks routine to me.

$50 is a standard 5-5 preflop raise? Man, live games.

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Looks routine to me.

$50 is a standard 5-5 preflop raise? Man, live games.

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yea if i want anyone to fold... button turned over 67o and the turn has bothered me ever since.

Re: 5-5NL hand at the bike... crosspost... AQs deep stacks
 

bet/call turn (shove if its raised non-allin)

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Pot ~305 Flop:
A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB bets 30, folds to me I raise it to 150 button

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This is silliness ... he has 500 left, bet 30 into a 300 pot and you're going to let him see a turn for 100 more?

Forget about getting all in on the turn, I think that in a live game pushing on the flop is clearly the best play. You are ahead 80% of the time here and you will get called by worse aces and flush draws and if he has AK you still aren't bad. Your hand is awesome = go all-in.

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I think u need to decipher what sb will lead out with before you take any action...an AJ AQ AK type hand, open ended and a set/two pair.

I think once you raise the flop u can rule out a set since he is shortstacked and in my expereince a shortstack usually pushe in with a set here.

So this leaves us with open ended and another ace(x) type hand. You MUST bet this turn...the pot or 3/4 pot would be nice and u are obviously calling an all in. My guess is that he had something like 67 sooted to river the straight.

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Looks routine to me.

$50 is a standard 5-5 preflop raise? Man, live games.

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yea if i want anyone to fold... button turned over 67o and the turn has bothered me ever since.

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Oh ok there you go didn't even see that....yeah u have to bet the turn!

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Looks routine to me.

$50 is a standard 5-5 preflop raise? Man, live games.



yea if i want anyone to fold... button turned over 67o and the turn has bothered me ever since.

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Actually I was raising to $60 (or more with limpers) in this particular game and still getting called 3 or 4 ways. Yummy.

Garland

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I think you can bet the turn here. You are usually ahead and almost always have outs if you are not. But I think the way you played it (especially against an aggressive, bluffing button) is fine too. I prefer to bet the turn, but I think the two options are close in EV.