How much to toke at the end of a MTT?
 

Just wondering what you guys tip at the end of a multi-table tournament (assuming you're in the money).

I usually tip 5%, which comes out well. Most tournaments I play in pay out 5500 to first place, which means a tip of almost 300 bucks.

But I'm in the final table of a tournament that pays out $35,000 to the winner. IF I can pull a win, do I still tip 5%? That's $1750! Any advice from those who regularly play B&M tournaments would be appreciated.

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3% is acceptable. Make sure to find out whether the tip is already taken out of the prize pool.

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oh man I took toke a completely different way

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Depends how high you wanna get [/bad pun]

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WAIT WAIT SHUT UP I LOVE THIS PART

I'M......... JAMMING

I'M...........JAMMING

AND I HOPE YOU LIKE JAMMING TOO

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I dont tip. Just take a screen capture, sign off and go to the bars. Is there a tip option in one of the menus?
~Justin

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WAIT WAIT SHUT UP I LOVE THIS PART

I'M......... JAMMING

I'M...........JAMMING

AND I HOPE YOU LIKE JAMMING TOO

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No, that's what you sing when you have AA and are shortstacked. [/on a roll]

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oh man I took toke a completely different way

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HA! Well, I'm short stacked going into the final six players. so if I can pull off a win, I'll definitly be toking after toking the dealers. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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3% is acceptable. Make sure to find out whether the tip is already taken out of the prize pool.

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No tip money is take from the prize pool. From what i've read, 5-10% for small wins (maybe up to a couple thousand). And for larger tournaments, with wins of thousands or tens of thousands, then 3% is good and 5% is being very very nice.

Does this sounds right?

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I dont tip. Just take a screen capture, sign off and go to the bars. Is there a tip option in one of the menus?
~Justin

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I usually send the support person (if we chop) $20 and Lee $20 using the transfer system.

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A lot of successful players don't toke at all, I believe 5% is way to high, I usually do in the 1-2% range if there is a very good dealer, I will pass him/her some $$ privately as they usually chop the tokes among all the dealers.

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I usually tip 5%

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But I'm sure 2% or so would be fine in bigger events.

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I dont tip. Just take a screen capture, sign off and go to the bars. Is there a tip option in one of the menus?
~Justin

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I usually send the support person (if we chop) $20 and Lee $20 using the transfer system.

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I cant tell if this is sarcasm or not?
im out of it. even wore 2 different sneakers to work today. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Depending on the score... about 1/8....

Oh wait, you mean tip the dealers... they can go score their own!

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This is all a dealer deserves:

http://www.stgeorgechamber.com/COUPONS/RedLobster.jpg

If he or she doesn't like it tell them to take notes on your play and score their own mtt win.

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Depends how high you wanna get [/bad pun]

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Be wise with your 1000th post. Don't just let it breeze by.

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3% is acceptable. Make sure to find out whether the tip is already taken out of the prize pool.

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Honest question: When it says that 3% (or however much) is withheld for the dealers and staff, does this mean you are not expected to tip on top of this? This always confused me.

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3% is acceptable. Make sure to find out whether the tip is already taken out of the prize pool.

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Honest question: When it says that 3% (or however much) is withheld for the dealers and staff, does this mean you are not expected to tip on top of this? This always confused me.

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that is correct. 6% is reserved this year for WSOP. (or is it 7%?). additionally tipping is not expected after that.

bwana

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if its purple just a couple hits otherwise usually an entire bowl

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Honest question: When it says that 3% (or however much) is withheld for the dealers and staff, does this mean you are not expected to tip on top of this? This always confused me.

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that is correct. 6% is reserved this year for WSOP. (or is it 7%?). additionally tipping is not expected after that.

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bingo bango bongo

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I'm lucky right now, because here in the UK toking dealers is not allowed.

James McManus in "Positively Fifth Street" has a very interesting chapter on this topic after he cashed in the WSOP ME.

If I recall correctly, something like 2-3% is expected.

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Is it really that bad not to tip? I mean, I find it very irritating. Its not like a restaurant; the dealer is not giving me a smile with my cards nor is the dealer some hot babe flirting with me while she gets me another beer. These guys are just dishing out cards, and they are amply paid via the entrance fee.

And what if I am really annoyed with the dealing services? What if guys are flipping over cards left and right? Is there any discretion here for the customer (the tournie winner) not to tip so as to create an incentive for good dealing (as its supposed to work in restaurants, but of course everyone always tips anyway no matter how bad the service)

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at the casino i (sometimes) frequent, i refuse to tip all but one dealer. they play it like it's a home game. one of them has a huge problem with flashing burn cards, another thinks that slow-rolling is acceptable because he "cant tell players how to play their cards". it's extremely poor, but none of them have yet to ask me why i don't toke. they probably aren't paying attention.

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I think 3% is acceptable for big MTTs with payouts of tens of thousands of dollars. If we're talking a smaller tournament where you win, say $5000 for first, then 5% would be good.

Unfortunatly, the casino I play at does not include dealer tips in the buy-in. That would make things ALOT easier.

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oh man I took toke a completely different way

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Same here. lol

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They know who is tossing the buck when they win a pot.

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I assume everyone is referring to live B&M tournys with their responses...I mean tipping online seems a little ludacrous dont you think? For live tourney's i'm at about 4-5% for small wins and 1.5-3% for larger (over10,000) wins.

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Of course, if you don't give an additional tip, you run the danger of getting slammed.

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its [censored] [censored] that they take a tip out in advance and criticize people who don't tip. I hate these people so much, if you want a tip don't take it out of the prize pool in advance, its so completely ridiculous. Any writer who writes garbage like this is a moron. If the dealers want a bigger tip, take freaking 4-5% instead of 3% off the top instead and then stop whining.

Note that I would tip something anyway for good karma purposes, but wouldn't blame anyone for a SECOND that tips absolutely zero.

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Is it really that bad not to tip? I mean, I find it very irritating. Its not like a restaurant; the dealer is not giving me a smile with my cards nor is the dealer some hot babe flirting with me while she gets me another beer. These guys are just dishing out cards, and they are amply paid via the entrance fee.

And what if I am really annoyed with the dealing services? What if guys are flipping over cards left and right? Is there any discretion here for the customer (the tournie winner) not to tip so as to create an incentive for good dealing (as its supposed to work in restaurants, but of course everyone always tips anyway no matter how bad the service)

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Do you tip bellman or doorman when they get you luggage or do you just consider that it is their "job"? I dont know how the dealers are paid or if the get paid less because they "may" get tips but I hear it so much that "they are doing thier job, why tip them."

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its [censored] [censored] that they take a tip out in advance and criticize people who don't tip. I hate these people so much, if you want a tip don't take it out of the prize pool in advance, its so completely ridiculous. Any writer who writes garbage like this is a moron. If the dealers want a bigger tip, take freaking 4-5% instead of 3% off the top instead and then stop whining.

Note that I would tip something anyway for good karma purposes, but wouldn't blame anyone for a SECOND that tips absolutely zero.

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Yeah, I completely agree. I basically got guilted into giving 5% by the entire Orleans tournament staff last summer when I took 2nd in their weekly friday afternoon limit Omaha 8 tourney. I only took home like $700 or $800 but I got the impression if I didn't leave a tip that I wouldn't exactly be welcomed back with open arms.

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its [censored] [censored] that they take a tip out in advance and criticize people who don't tip. I hate these people so much, if you want a tip don't take it out of the prize pool in advance, its so completely ridiculous. Any writer who writes garbage like this is a moron. If the dealers want a bigger tip, take freaking 4-5% instead of 3% off the top instead and then stop whining.

Note that I would tip something anyway for good karma purposes, but wouldn't blame anyone for a SECOND that tips absolutely zero.

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Yeah, I completely agree. I basically got guilted into giving 5% by the entire Orleans tournament staff last summer when I took 2nd in their weekly friday afternoon limit Omaha 8 tourney. I only took home like $700 or $800 but I got the impression if I didn't leave a tip that I wouldn't exactly be welcomed back with open arms.

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Screw that dude. I'm not going to tip anything. They can try to guilt me all they want. Fact is, I'm the customer, I spent my own gas money to drive X hours to get there, and I paid their damn rake. If I don't want to tip, you don't go trying to guilt me into doing it. See if I come back to that casino if they pull that [censored].

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its [censored] [censored] that they take a tip out in advance and criticize people who don't tip. I hate these people so much, if you want a tip don't take it out of the prize pool in advance, its so completely ridiculous. Any writer who writes garbage like this is a moron. If the dealers want a bigger tip, take freaking 4-5% instead of 3% off the top instead and then stop whining.

Note that I would tip something anyway for good karma purposes, but wouldn't blame anyone for a SECOND that tips absolutely zero.

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Yeah, I completely agree. I basically got guilted into giving 5% by the entire Orleans tournament staff last summer when I took 2nd in their weekly friday afternoon limit Omaha 8 tourney. I only took home like $700 or $800 but I got the impression if I didn't leave a tip that I wouldn't exactly be welcomed back with open arms.

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Screw that dude. I'm not going to tip anything. They can try to guilt me all they want. Fact is, I'm the customer, I spent my own gas money to drive X hours to get there, and I paid their damn rake. If I don't want to tip, you don't go trying to guilt me into doing it. See if I come back to that casino if they pull that [censored].

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[censored] [censored] [censored] no [censored] way am i gonna [censored] [censored] [censored] [censored] tip. [censored] [censored] [censored] [censored] small animal [censored] [censored] [censored] punt. [censored] grease fire [censored] [censored] [censored] in hell.

Those are my thoughts.

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Of course, if you don't give an additional tip, you run the danger of getting slammed.

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This isn't that he didn't leave a tip it's that he left a $500 tip off of $1.5mil score. It even said if he didn't want to tip that was fine since a certain % had already been taken off but to leave $500 makes it seem like he was upset with something.

It would be like leaving a $1 tip at a resturant after an expensive meal. You want them to know you didn't forget and that you tipped bad on purpose.

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Dont you understand that he already tipped by virtue of simply paying his entry fee? Do you feel obliged to tip when your room service brings you a meal and the 20% tip has already been taken out? I usually tip a buck or two but it's absurd to expect someone to tip more when you've already tipped for them.

Honestly I think that any tournament director, casino or writer who acts like you should be under some moral pressure to tip in these cases should be boycotted/treated with extreme prejudice. They are basically intimidating you into giving them money after they've already taken said money from you.

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Dont you understand that he already tipped by virtue of simply paying his entry fee? Do you feel obliged to tip when your room service brings you a meal and the 20% tip has already been taken out? I usually tip a buck or two but it's absurd to expect someone to tip more when you've already tipped for them.

Honestly I think that any tournament director, casino or writer who acts like you should be under some moral pressure to tip in these cases should be boycotted/treated with extreme prejudice. They are basically intimidating you into giving them money after they've already taken said money from you.

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I'm fine with him not tipping at all. Espcially when a tip was already taken out in both a % and in an entry fee.

I just think it's a little insulting to $500 off of that score. Tip nothing or make an appropriate tip.

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Dont you understand that he already tipped by virtue of simply paying his entry fee? Do you feel obliged to tip when your room service brings you a meal and the 20% tip has already been taken out? I usually tip a buck or two but it's absurd to expect someone to tip more when you've already tipped for them.

Honestly I think that any tournament director, casino or writer who acts like you should be under some moral pressure to tip in these cases should be boycotted/treated with extreme prejudice. They are basically intimidating you into giving them money after they've already taken said money from you.

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I'm fine with him not tipping at all. Espcially when a tip was already taken out in both a % and in an entry fee.

I just think it's a little insulting to $500 off of that score. Tip nothing or make an appropriate tip.

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I think it's more than a little insulting for them to nudge him to tip them. I just can't stand that crap. You know what, if I feel like tipping, I'll tip. I don't need people suggesting to me what they think is the appropriate thing to do.

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Dont you understand that he already tipped by virtue of simply paying his entry fee? Do you feel obliged to tip when your room service brings you a meal and the 20% tip has already been taken out? I usually tip a buck or two but it's absurd to expect someone to tip more when you've already tipped for them.

Honestly I think that any tournament director, casino or writer who acts like you should be under some moral pressure to tip in these cases should be boycotted/treated with extreme prejudice. They are basically intimidating you into giving them money after they've already taken said money from you.

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I'm fine with him not tipping at all. Espcially when a tip was already taken out in both a % and in an entry fee.

I just think it's a little insulting to $500 off of that score. Tip nothing or make an appropriate tip.

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this reminds me of how some people on 2+2 complained what a cheapskate hachem was for tipping the dealer who dealt the winning hand $100 at the WSOP. rumor had it that the dealer was mad about that.

as far as im concerned tipping at the WSOP has ended. correct im wrong but it's so built into the buy in now since it's so high.

bwana