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-petra- 04-13-2006 12:53 AM

4 different hands from a rough session( 5/10 )
 
Hand #1:

Player is 15/12 over 150 hands, so he's not getting out of line. this is the first time he's reraised me.
I really didn't like calling in on river, but I figured it was probably a split, or he might be making a move on me with a weak hand, trying to push me off the king. Should I play this differently at any point? I guess bet/calling turn is a better option, but shouldn't i go broke here even if he has a set?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) converter

Hero ($942)
SB ($930)
BB ($1000)
UTG ($400)
MP ($2164.63)
CO ($2492.35)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $35</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $95</font>, Hero calls $70.

Flop: ($215) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $150</font>, Hero calls $150.

Turn: ($515) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($515) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB calls $745 (All-In), Hero calls $687 (All-In).

Final Pot: $1947


Hand #2:

villian is 23/14.. fairly loose

This is an ugly, ugly hand. I was running bad so it influenced my play here. I was playing this player on multiple tables, and I think i had been re-raising him more than a fair share of times. He hadn't called any of my raises this far however, and right after I raised I noticed he had odds to call for a set. So I bet, then on an extremly dry board he makes a smallish raise. Is there an argument for a fold here? or should I just push it in. If I'm calling, I just auto call / push any turn? I feel so bad about this hand.......

BTW- I don't think he's the kind of player too make smallish raises oop to find out where he is / see if middle pair is good.

Do I need to go broke here every time just so I don't get abused by other regulars?


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) converter

BB ($1000)
UTG ($1000)
MP ($2208)
CO ($1310.75)
Hero ($2104)
SB ($930)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $40</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $120</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $80.

Flop: ($255) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $525</font>, Hero folds.



Hand 3:

This is somewhat different than the other hands.. villian is extremly lag 34/22...... I am so baffled as to how to play in these situations.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) converter

Button ($1211.01)
SB ($1116)
BB ($1062)
UTG ($890)
Hero ($2617.25)
CO ($1027)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $35</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $35, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($85) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $165</font>, Hero calls $105.

Turn: ($415) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $300</font>, Hero calls $300.

River: ($1015) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $300</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $1315



There is a ton of draws on that flop he could be raising with, so I decide I'm going to look him up. The turn nothing changes, except my odds of winning are better. The river, he makes an absolute tiny value bet, and i think its clear i have lost the hand.



Hand 4: Final hand of the night..

villian is very tight 11/6 or something. I know that he semi-bluff's a lot of his draws however. I was planning on pushing a non club turn. the club comes, and i decide I beat nothing but AQ. Should I fold or stay in the hand?

I folded, and he said AcQ later.......


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) converter

UTG ($166.50)
MP ($1521.50)
CO ($1008.75)
Button ($1566)
Hero ($1020)
BB ($1000)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $30</font>, BB calls $25.

Flop: ($70) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $180</font>, Hero calls $120.

Turn: ($430) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $350</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $780

04-13-2006 12:56 AM

Re: 4 different hands from a rough session( 5/10 )
 
bet turn in hand 1 plz

04-13-2006 01:03 AM

Re: 4 different hands from a rough session( 5/10 )
 
whats wrong with 3betting flop in hand 1? It may come off as a draw and you could see a heroic call with AQ/KQ/slowpayed KK

ender555 04-13-2006 01:03 AM

Re: 4 different hands from a rough session( 5/10 )
 
yes,I think betting turn is best.....

Taikunin 04-13-2006 01:03 AM

Re: 4 different hands from a rough session( 5/10 )
 
Hand 1: Fold PF

Hand 2: Does this person raise small pp's? I get it all in on a safe turn.

Hand 3: Fold turn.

Hand 4: Consider raising flop.

ender555 04-13-2006 01:09 AM

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04-13-2006 01:12 AM

Re: 4 different hands from a rough session( 5/10 )
 
Really depends on the player. If he's a true nit I'd fold preflop since I am way ahead of his range but this is a button vs. blinds hand and he DEFINATELY could be playing back at you esp with those stats.

-petra- 04-13-2006 01:39 AM

Re: 4 different hands from a rough session( 5/10 )
 
I don't think he will call with KQ/AQ here. He may call with KK. I think the best option in this hand, is to call, and lead any non-queen turn 2/3 pot or so... I don't think anyone's going to raise a queen, but they will most likely still call.

DonButtons 04-13-2006 01:41 AM

Re: 4 different hands from a rough session( 5/10 )
 
dude, wtf is going on ender...lol

-petra- 04-13-2006 01:42 AM

Re: 4 different hands from a rough session( 5/10 )
 
hand 1: Should I really be folding PF here? I have position and its button vs. blinds, his range could be huge here. What about post flop decisions.

hand 2:

I don't see what a safe turn is in hand 2.. it would seem like EVERY turn is safe as its WA/WB. he either has a set/AA or he doesn't.

FWIW i altered this hand. I actually called his raise, Q fell on turn, and he insta pushed for 600+. I just folded as i thought there was little chance he didn't have a set. It was extremely ugly.

thabadguy 04-13-2006 03:58 AM

Re: 4 different hands from a rough session( 5/10 )
 
[ QUOTE ]
Hand 1: Fold PF



[/ QUOTE ]
NO!! NOO!! NEVER!
Folding AKo preflop in this situation is more disgusting than getting head from a 80 yr old hooker with no teeth.

Taikunin 04-13-2006 04:46 AM

Re: 4 different hands from a rough session( 5/10 )
 
[ QUOTE ]
hand 1: Should I really be folding PF here? I have position and its button vs. blinds, his range could be huge here. What about post flop decisions.

hand 2:

I don't see what a safe turn is in hand 2.. it would seem like EVERY turn is safe as its WA/WB. he either has a set/AA or he doesn't.

FWIW i altered this hand. I actually called his raise, Q fell on turn, and he insta pushed for 600+. I just folded as i thought there was little chance he didn't have a set. It was extremely ugly.

[/ QUOTE ]

Hand 1: Alright pf is fine,

Hand 2: I don't know what I meant by safe turn, I just get it all in on the turn.


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