Fold Nut Straight on Scary River?
 

Please dont criticize preflop...i do this almost never.

5-10 PP 6Max.

I definately have a LAG image and am doing quite well...I get the impression villian is a regular, not sure if hes LAG or TAG yet but I am 80% sure he's a winner by recognition of his name...I am playing under a new name - he doesnt know who I am.

Hero has 3h 6h and raises to 40 (standard). Villian calls in SB and BB comes along as well.

FLOP: Q 4 5 rainbow. SB bets out 3/4 pot, BB folds I call. ~ 330 in the pot.

TURN: 2. SB bets out again 2/3 pot, I call (easy shove next time, yes?) ~750 in pot

RIVER: 5. SB moves in for about 850. I fold.

I think my logic was bad... If i put him on a set I had to push the turn. As played, is river fold so bad?

Villian (Miles1215 or something like that) shows Q 10 and seems to know he just bluffed me off a big hand... Obviously his bet makes no sense but, aside from pushing turn is folding river so bad?

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I don't fold there.

His bet makes no sense but he pushed you off the best hand?

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wow.

that fold is [censored] awful, like 'LOL' bad.

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when opening with 36s, this is essentially the best possible board you could hope for, instacall.

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Your hand is very, very well disguised. I would consider repotting this on the flop unless your read is that Villain leading out is a very strong hand. There is no draw on that board and most one pair hands should fold to your pot-raise.

Turn check is fine I guess but personally I would donkey min-raise it since I am scared of not building this pot.

River is very bad. He puts you on a hand like KQ or middle PP 100%. Therefore, he can be doing this with AA, KK, AQ, or just trying to follow through with a bluff. He has no clue how strong you actually are. He can also be doing this with 44 but it is an easy call.

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obviously... but what do you put villian on?

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How do you put SB on a set? He's calling a standard raise from the blinds, this gives him a wide range.

You played 36 for deception, hit the best hand on the best board you possibly could and fold to a pot bet?

Normally I raise the turn but a call versus a aggressive opponnent who only slows when you push back could be justified. Push versus opponnents that like to make heroic call downs.

You played 3 6 for deception, villan has no clue as to the strength of your hand and you fold to a slightly over pot bet on the river????? HORRIBLE. Sorry it is.

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you aren't american right? the custom in the US is that april fools is only one day, not the whole month.

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Gross turn and river play...

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turn play ain't so bad. and gross is not quite the word to describe the river play. gross has too much of a hint of seriousness about it.

Re: Fold Nut Straight on Scary River?
 

unless this guys a nit, im prob. not even folding AA here.

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Gross turn play..........
River is not awful but I dont think im folding

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this is bad.

raise turn for sure. River definitely call. He could have AA, KK figuring bb would fold pf and he'd have a disguised monster. He could have 65, AQ, whatever, river is a call.

That being said, if folds like this are a leak of yours (and it looks like they are), in addition to vowing to study to correct this, I would also recommend fast playing your big hands, so you're not in these spots as much in the meantime.

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regarding turn play, i really don't mind the call here given stack sizes and board texture and the fact that this dude keeps betting into us pretty hard. it is often a bluff and he might just do what he did on the river, and it is often someting like two pair that barring a board pair will definitely push river or bet it hard whereas might find a fold if we push.

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the hilariousness of this fold is that you are putting villain on this range: sets. all he has done is bet, never called a raise. if you are only calling rather than raising, you certainly must have a wider range for him than "sets."

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turn play ain't so bad. and gross is not quite the word to describe the river play. gross has too much of a hint of seriousness about it.

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losing that much money on a boneheaded play is serious.

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my first thought.

YSSCKY

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my first thought.

YSSCKY

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whats that mean??

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my first thought.

YSSCKY

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whats that mean??

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YOU SHOULD SERIOUSLY CONSIDER KILLING YOURSELF.