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Baked67 04-05-2006 02:23 PM

How\'s this Push? PP Speed $6...
 
So, I came back over to Party the day of the format change. I was playing in the $11's at the time, but have had a rough run the past couple of weeks and now I'm down a bit and have to regroup at the horrible raked $6's. I'm still having difficulties, so I figured I'd post some hands where I think I just donked it up...

Is this push good? I thought it was alright but upon review I'm questioning it.

PartyPoker Speed Tournament, Big Blind is t200 (10 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1640)
UTG+1 (t2324)
MP1 (t600)
Hero (t1760)
MP3 (t1680)
CO+1 (t2213)
CO (t780)
Button (t1373)
SB (t4250)
BB (t3380)

Preflop: Hero is in MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t1760</font>, <font color="gray">MP3

Thanks.

nhsir 04-05-2006 02:39 PM

Re: How\'s this Push? PP Speed $6...
 
Way too aggessive IMO. I would make this move from SB or button, but it's VERY different with six people still to act. Risk/Reward is no good here.

AliasMrJones 04-05-2006 02:43 PM

Re: How\'s this Push? PP Speed $6...
 
Uhhh...no.

luthar 04-05-2006 02:43 PM

Re: How\'s this Push? PP Speed $6...
 
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Way too aggessive IMO. I would make this move from SB or button, but it's VERY different with six people still to act. Risk/Reward is no good here.

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Like it was said, this is too agressive. with AQ+ QQ+ perhaps. Your out of position, and honestly the best you can have is a coinflip vs Ax. If your called, I put the caller with AJ+/QQ+ and your are an underdog [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Jshuttlesworth 04-05-2006 02:44 PM

Re: How\'s this Push? PP Speed $6...
 
YUCK. Here's my advice. Cash out... spend two weeks reading stuff and figure out what to do. Play the Stars $3 + .40. Play enough so that you believe you are a winning player. If you can't do that, quit SnGs or take another 2 weeks off.

Jshuttlesworth 04-05-2006 02:45 PM

Re: How\'s this Push? PP Speed $6...
 
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If your called, I put the caller with AJ+/QQ+ and your are an underdog [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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AJo but not JJ?!?

I'm pushing TT here.

luthar 04-05-2006 02:51 PM

Re: How\'s this Push? PP Speed $6...
 
TT or JJ probably from Button-BB.. but not from the ones before.

Usually I'm a TAG when so many ppl on so choose my hands carefully...

Jshuttlesworth 04-05-2006 02:54 PM

Re: How\'s this Push? PP Speed $6...
 
So are you folding JJ from CO? Making a standard raise and then folding to a reraise? Limping? Please hel me out.

Sykes 04-05-2006 02:59 PM

Re: How\'s this Push? PP Speed $6...
 
I regularly push 99+/ATo+/KQ here. I don't know about KJo. It can't be that bad I reckon.

AliasMrJones 04-05-2006 03:04 PM

Re: How\'s this Push? PP Speed $6...
 
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TT or JJ probably from Button-BB.. but not from the ones before.

Usually I'm a TAG when so many ppl on so choose my hands carefully...

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Folding TT or JJ with this stack from any position is bad.

luthar 04-05-2006 03:09 PM

Re: How\'s this Push? PP Speed $6...
 
In this example, with less than 1k chip, CO with JJ goes all-in.. no question

But I like when that many ppl behind me to limp in, call the raise and look at flop, if danger and if I sence he might have an overcard and paired it. Will fold.

What I hate about JJ/TT is that you can be beaten by alot of hands if you don't get a set. Honestly, most TT/JJ in MP positions have been disasters so far.. so yes i'm playing tight with them. Let's not talk about Qs.. lol

AliasMrJones 04-05-2006 03:11 PM

Re: How\'s this Push? PP Speed $6...
 
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In this example, with less than 1k chip, CO with JJ goes all-in.. no question

But I like when that many ppl behind me to limp in, call the raise and look at flop, if danger and if I sence he might have an overcard and paired it. Will fold.

What I hate about JJ/TT is that you can be beaten by alot of hands if you don't get a set. Honestly, most TT/JJ in MP positions have been disasters so far.. so yes i'm playing tight with them. Let's not talk about Qs.. lol

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You're less than 10xBB. Doing anything other than pushing or folding is horrible. TT/JJ/QQ are way to strong to fold.

Sykes 04-05-2006 03:25 PM

Re: How\'s this Push? PP Speed $6...
 
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TT or JJ probably from Button-BB.. but not from the ones before.

Usually I'm a TAG when so many ppl on so choose my hands carefully...

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you play bad, and in no position to give advise in this situation. Please read the archives to improve your play before you comment such nonsense.

Sykes 04-05-2006 03:27 PM

Re: How\'s this Push? PP Speed $6...
 
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In this example, with less than 1k chip, CO with JJ goes all-in.. no question

But I like when that many ppl behind me to limp in, call the raise and look at flop, if danger and if I sence he might have an overcard and paired it. Will fold.

What I hate about JJ/TT is that you can be beaten by alot of hands if you don't get a set. Honestly, most TT/JJ in MP positions have been disasters so far.. so yes i'm playing tight with them. Let's not talk about Qs.. lol

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You're less than 10xBB. Doing anything other than pushing or folding is horrible. TT/JJ/QQ are way to strong to fold.

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What about 88? 99? 99 I push utg with less than 10xbb quite regularly, 88 I fold UTG and push in later position and this would be the worst position I push 88. 66-77 I most likely fold, depending on the table. 22-55 I fold.


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