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graydot 04-03-2006 09:30 PM

High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Daniel N. is amazing.

"you you have JJ right?"

Not Antonios night..., AA<JJ earlier and now that river... feels like he is playing above his limits.

Phil, raising A2o again?

Seat Order:

1. Brunson
2. J Harmen
3. Berry G.
4. Phil Hellmuth
5. Johnny Chan
6. Daniel N.
7. Antonio
8. Jerry Buss



Ghazban 04-03-2006 09:31 PM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
Antonio's play has been excellent across the board. I honestly thought he was worse than this based on seeing some of his online play (10/25 NL on UB).

Jen Harman saying she'd come down and play NL with Phil any time right at the start of the show was great, too.

Toe-Knee 04-03-2006 09:34 PM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
Wow that JJ KT hand, jesus. That was like the best hand the whole series. Just happened here in central time. Ahmmmmmmmmm

gdsdiscgolfer 04-03-2006 09:34 PM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
[ QUOTE ]
[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Daniel N. is amazing.

"you you have JJ right?"

[/ QUOTE ]

If only he knew when to shut it.

mostsmooth 04-03-2006 09:36 PM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
did i miss anything?
for some reason i thoiught it started at 10.fark!

graydot 04-03-2006 09:39 PM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
[ QUOTE ]
did i miss anything?
for some reason i thoiught it started at 10.fark!

[/ QUOTE ]

10pm is usually an encore from the previous week

mostsmooth 04-03-2006 09:43 PM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
did i miss anything?
for some reason i thoiught it started at 10.fark!

[/ QUOTE ]

10pm is usually an encore from the previous week

[/ QUOTE ]
i know,i know. i cant get it into my head. 9pm.9pm9pm

Ghazban 04-03-2006 09:46 PM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
Why does Hellmuth make these retarded underbets?

graydot 04-03-2006 09:46 PM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
Phil, this is not an online tournament.... they wont fold to your little probe bets or what you think are value bets with bottom pair

closer 04-03-2006 09:50 PM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
BUSTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mostsmooth 04-03-2006 09:50 PM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
phil plays goot

KingGeorgeC 04-03-2006 09:52 PM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
What's in Barry's bag?

george

aceskay 04-03-2006 09:53 PM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
sounds like a rapper...priceless line from jerry buss

graydot 04-03-2006 09:55 PM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
phil needs titan poker

graydot 04-03-2006 09:56 PM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
2 5 8

Phil: 66

Well I put you on a low pair, 22, 33, 44... now why would you put me all in? Bad logic...

:duh:

bsheck 04-03-2006 09:57 PM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
They won't respect his raises, and he can't move anyone off a hand!

Ghazban 04-03-2006 09:59 PM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
"I understand raising or betting as a bluff, but bluff calling?"

-Barry, to Phil


Awesome

graydot 04-03-2006 10:01 PM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 


Benza: *nod* *nod* *nod*
Dirty Sanchez Guy: Bla Bla poker
Benza: LOL *nod* *nod* *nod*
DSG: (while flapping his hands) Bla Bla Bla (Insert weak joke here)
Benza: *nod* LOL *nod* *nod* Well good night

Good show, once again Phil gives us entertainment

soah 04-03-2006 10:02 PM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
I was laughing so hard I almost cried.

AggroFish 04-03-2006 10:04 PM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
Chan telling Helmuth he's not playing an internet tournamnet was the best.

lozen 04-03-2006 10:12 PM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
Antonio has played some great poker.
Jennifer asked Phil something about tilting and he replied I dont discuss that on TV thanks. Early in he said that.

Phil your entertaining at the best

BeaucoupFish 04-03-2006 10:38 PM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
Daniel is pretty amazing. I'm beginning to dislike Gabe "post production expert" Kaplin more and more ("I'm sure Daniels made a lot of good reads in his life, but this is not a particularly impressive one"). Probably not an amazing deduction for Daniel this time, but don't take away from the guys 'mad skillzzz'!

I like Antonio a lot too, he's living the life most young players are dreaming of - and while he may be in over his head here, he is showing a great deal of class:

Daniel to Antonio (re: Phils ranting)
"The difference with what he's had happen to what you had happen: he's outside breaking things and you took two sick beats and you're laughing"

Army Eye 04-03-2006 11:37 PM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
Hey, Antonio had to take a powder after his bad beat too.

ConsciousOne 04-04-2006 12:07 AM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
[ QUOTE ]
Daniel N. is amazing.

"you you have JJ right?"


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If only he knew when to shut it.


[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah i think his table talk was perfect up until the point when he said "I'll show you one after you fold". I think he was folding if he had just stopped talking.

Watching phil first annouce his ace then call 25k with it, then another 40k on the river was fun to watch.

CrazyEyez 04-04-2006 12:16 AM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
That was hilarious.

- jerry ripping on phil, and making lose calls/bluffs in phil's pots. (you know you're the fish at the table when Jerry Buss is mixing it up with you)
- Barry ripping on phil (bluff-call)
- Jen ripping on phil (I'd play NL if you were there)
- Johnny ripping on phil (imagine how long the list would be for that game)
- Danny ripping on phil (to antonio)
- Phil ranting, to antonio: "...and he bluffs me with 7 high....which was good, by the way..."


I've gained a lot of respect for antonio the last two weeks.

THEOSU 04-04-2006 12:20 AM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
antonio's play has clearly been 1.4

mikechops 04-04-2006 12:37 AM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
[ QUOTE ]


Daniel to Antonio (re: Phils ranting)
"The difference with what he's had happen to what you had happen: he's outside breaking things and you took two sick beats and you're laughing"

[/ QUOTE ]

The difference is that Phil's beats were down to crappy play on his part. That tends to upset me more than a bad beat as well. At least with a bad beat, you have the satisfaction of knowing you played well.

Dominic 04-04-2006 12:44 AM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
how in the world can Phil be this bad at NL poker? Did you see when Barry was whispering to him about "you have to adjust your game" and Phil blows him off?

I'm not a Phil basher, but WOW...am I a fool to want to play him??

CrazyEyez 04-04-2006 12:53 AM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
The funny part is that if at this point he defaulted to his normal tournament game, instead of trying to outplay everyone, he'd probably get paid off a fair amount.

Triumph36 04-04-2006 01:22 AM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
I get the sense that this is Hellmuth's normal tournament game.

These underbets by Hellmuth - I love it. Who doesn't love a donkey who is always underbetting at their table trying to be table captain? You can raise on a bluff or raise with the best hand - often the donkey feels like he's being bluffed (because he bet so little) so he doesn't know what to do. This is exactly what happened when Barry had quads against Phil and exactly what happened when Barry had a set against Phil - in tonight's episode, Phil talked a bunch of nonsense like he was bluffing before he bet that flop, but was actually value-betting, then bluff-called all in. From watching this show and some of his online play, it's obvious the guy is a huge fish in anything that isn't a tournament.

cjm8301 04-04-2006 01:50 AM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
what station are these shows on?

Bukem_ 04-04-2006 03:19 AM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
Best episode so far. Antonio plays suprising well.

Hellmuth is great for the show.

Love how table bursts out laughing when barry raises him after he almost gets by the entire table.

thedarknight 04-04-2006 06:33 AM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
barry: but why bluff...call
phil: are you talking to me?

tables goes up in an uproar

goddamn i am just dying because barry is laughing and cracking on phil. i mean u know it's great when barry starts taking a jab at you.

MikeGuz 04-04-2006 07:53 AM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
If a player isn't afraid of Ts but is of Qs perhape he has JJ. Antonio just about showed him his cards it's was about as good a read on PH with the weak A.

I am not imprssed with the play of most of these players but the money is huge. Makes me wonder if this is a real game of some sort of set up TV they are playing like guys who have made a deal for the tournament cash and just playing for fun.

Rianna 04-04-2006 09:06 AM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 

Great, great show IMHO. But Waaaaaay to short [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

I want More, I want More...hard to take waiting another Week [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

;(

Rianna 04-04-2006 09:16 AM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 

I, too, have gained a lot of respect for Antonio, he is showing a lot of class IMO and some fine play...mixing it up and attacking Phil with the 10-5 certainly helped.

Really enjoy watching Daniel (and Jen) play. Great lineup, more, more!

djoyce003 04-04-2006 09:18 AM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
this sucks...for whatever dumb ass reason, time warner stopped carrying GSN in my area WTF

Isura 04-04-2006 09:31 AM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
The Harmon vs Negraneau hand was interesting. I wonder why Daniel raised preflop and then went into check/call mode when he flopped a good hand for that board.

nath 04-04-2006 09:34 AM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
I'm just astounded at how badly Hellmuth plays. Those 1/5 to 1/8 pot bets that get nothing done, the constant "never let me win a pot" bitching (why should they when you're so easy to push around anyway?)
I mean, I'm kind of an internet tournament donkey but watching that makes me think I could beat him.

MinRaise 04-04-2006 10:00 AM

Re: High Stakes Poker - April 03
 
Obviously, since we don't see every hand, this may not be as frequent as it seems, but Daniel seems to call a ton of preflop reraises with marginal to downright bad hands. That 64s hand vs Chan and KTs vs Antonio hand he put himself in awkward positions postflop when he flopped middle or bottom pair. I guess he doesn't want to start folding to reraises so players don't do it more often to him. I won't criticize the style of a world-class player, but I think 99% of poker players would go broke quickly making calls like that.


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