My first ever AA limp....
 

It did what I wanted it to do, but I'm never doing it again.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Hero (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t540)
MP2 (t1850)
MP3 (t1740)
CO (t1420)
Button (t2620)
SB (t1310)
BB (t1020)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero calls t20, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to t60</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t50, <font color="red">BB raises to t1020 (All-in)</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t1500 (All-in)</font>, CO calls t1360 (All-in), <font color="gray">SB folds</font>

Flop: (t4040) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)


Turn: (t4040) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)


River: (t4040) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)


Hero has As, Ah (two pair, Aces and Jacks)</font>
CO has Qs, Qc (a full house, Queens full of Jacks)</font>
BB has Ac, Qh (two pair, Queens and Jacks)</font>

Re: My first ever AA limp....
 

Preflop it went about as good as you could have hoped. To bad you just didn't win. I mean if you are with a table full of donks that will push preflop with the bb at 40 then limping w/ AA is always a reasonable play, just doesn't mean you should do it all the time. Either way it's good to mix up your play everyonce in a while.

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I was just scared of the entire table folding, cause I hadn't played a hand yet...if you're playing at a reasonably tight table, is this ever a good move? This was at a Pokerstars 16 dollar sit and go, so not the highest quality of players, however the main thing I look at when making this move is the likely that there will be another raise, giving me the opportunity to re-raise.

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I think the presence of a limper ahead of you makes this -ev compared to raising.

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This is a correct play if the table has been active. Players min raising/raising etc. If the table has been 7/8 callers/limpers then you would need to raise it.

No matter what way you played this hand QQ was always going to reraise you thus allowing you to get it in Pre Flop plus you had the AQo totally dominated for an extra 33% of chips.

Just a pity they did not hold up.

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Limping aces with blinds at 10/20 makes me want to barf.

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Limping aces with blinds at 10/20 makes me want to barf.

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Although I don't do it often it sometimes is the better play as it was here. From that early of position limping aces with the intention of hopefully having someone raise you so that you can raise them back is a good idea. I would do it in a cash game almost all of the time.

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Although I don't do it often it sometimes is the better play as it was here.

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It most certainly wasn't the better play here. Hero just got lucky that somebody had premium cards to raise for him. Most of the time he would have gotten lots of limpers along for the ride and then been in a terrible spot.

If hero raises 3BB, AQ or QQ villains will assuredly re-raise, and then he'd gotten his pf all-in as well. So in this exact case you gain nothing from the limp. And in most cases you'll be in a heap of trouble.

Edit: cash games are a very different animal to SNG's. So it might be profitable there.

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Limping aces with blinds at 10/20 makes me want to barf.

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It's not like you could have push out queens.

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If hero raises 3BB, AQ or QQ villains will assuredly re-raise, and then he'd gotten his pf all-in as well. So in this exact case you gain nothing from the limp. And in most cases you'll be in a heap of trouble.


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I wouldn't reraise with AQ and neither would most good players. A raise from early position will also show a large amount of strength to a perceptive opponent. The only way to hide this is the limp reraise.

All of that being said I still raise 95% of the time with this hand, but limping is something to consider if your opponents are aggressive at this blind level.

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I wouldn't reraise with AQ and neither would most good players. A raise from early position will also show a large amount of strength to a perceptive opponent.

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Well that is the crux of the matter. Most of your opponents aren't good players or perceptive. Granted, op doesn't specify what level this is but if it is anything below $50 I'll guarantee that a majority sucks, and will limp any two in the opening rounds.

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Limping aces with blinds at 10/20 makes me want to barf.

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that doesn't matter for a solid number of reasons. 20t is NOTHING and if you raise it to 120t and gets folded u make 30t. if you have 5 limpers u can still pot a flop and get a few bets out and play extremely carefully and still be ahead a large amount of the time.

limping at a tight table is NEVER ever a good idea, always come out betting, even if you do take down the blinds.

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I was just scared of the entire table folding, cause I hadn't played a hand yet...if you're playing at a reasonably tight table, is this ever a good move? This was at a Pokerstars 16 dollar sit and go, so not the highest quality of players, however the main thing I look at when making this move is the likely that there will be another raise, giving me the opportunity to re-raise.

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It's level 1!!! It's not unusual at all to not play a hand in the first level. Your opponents will not have noticed that you are playing tight. Even IF they did (which they won't) they won't care anyway!

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Results still end up being the same even if you raise preflop. It's not like you let a 97s see a cheap flop.

FWIW, just yesterday, I was in a 3-table FPP (satellite to sunday) and some of the players were punishing limpers. We were down to 7 handed and I had the chip lead with 14k and 2nd chip lead was in BB with 7k. I limped UTG (based on prior actions) and folded to SB who completes and BB shoves allin with JJ and my AA held. This propelled me on to take the satellite win.

There are times when it is beneficial to limp aces, your results here would have been the same even if you had raised.

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I was just scared of the entire table folding, cause I hadn't played a hand yet

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I wouldn't worry about the table realizing this is the 1st hand you played at a $16