No sweating at CB?
 

BK told me he heard this was a new rule at Canterbury. Can someone confirm/deny this and if it is true explain to me why and how much longer it'll be till there is no talking allowed at the tables too.

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That is absolutely absurd, if this is true, Canterbury has stooped to a new low. I am sick of the Monopoly they have on poker, it is about time a different casino opened up a competitive cardroom. Stopping this will change the game a ton, a lot of the friend aspect will be lost. The general play will be more intense and just not as fun. And as a player who goes there for fun, I am just not sure if they still have my business or not.

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I got yelled by a dealer at Wynn for "talking about a hand after it was over, because I was not in it". I was confused as could be afterwards.

We aren't that far away.

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unfortunately this is absolutely true. I didn't know about it since it was only my second time there on saturday. brought my friend who wanted to watch 30/60...fat floor guy was a complete [censored].

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BK told me he heard this was a new rule at Canterbury. Can someone confirm/deny this and if it is true explain to me why and how much longer it'll be till there is no talking allowed at the tables too.

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and like i said i'm new to the area but if things go like they did this weekend, there will be a code of silence during hands soon enough. the [censored] was out of hand all weekend

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are these casinos showing substantial profits from the poker rooms, or are they providing card rooms to get people in the doors hoping they'll make a stop at the BJ table?

p.s. i'm pretty out of my element here, and i'm not even sure if this place offers BJ or other games. i just don't understand the logic behind poker rooms being extremely genial to there customers.

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if this is true I'll be going to Canterbury significantly less.

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I was there two weeks ago, it is true. You are NOT allowed to show other players at the table your hand. You CAN table your hand for everyone to see. You CAN let a buddy/wife/etc sit behind you and sweat your cards if they are not in the game.

I have to say, I like the rule. When I played 30/60 there it seemed like someone was showing a hand and then mucking nearly every time. It's just not fair. Come on, just muck 'em.

edit: i'd say about 25% of the dealers were enforcing the rule while i was there. most of the time the dealers didn't. the floor did for sure.

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BK told me he heard this was a new rule at Canterbury. Can someone confirm/deny this and if it is true explain to me why and how much longer it'll be till there is no talking allowed at the tables too.

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it is true. your winrate will decrease dramatically since i can no longer sweat you, fish.

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That is absolutely absurd, if this is true, Canterbury has stooped to a new low. I am sick of the Monopoly they have on poker, it is about time a different casino opened up a competitive cardroom. Stopping this will change the game a ton, a lot of the friend aspect will be lost. The general play will be more intense and just not as fun. And as a player who goes there for fun, I am just not sure if they still have my business or not.

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of course they still have your business because (a) you can't go anywhere else and (b) lotsa fishies swim in that pond. that said, i think the rule blows.

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This new rule is in fact true. I was recently talking to some dealers and a floor supervisor privately about the reason for this rule. They felt that it reveals information about a certain players playing style, that was unavailable to the rest of the table. But mostly, many many people "apparently" complained about it, i guess a lot of 30-60 players? but thats essentially what i was told....

HOWEVER.... a new rule now allows you to strattle on the button while playing 3 handed. The reason for this rule which i was told from another annonymous source, is that the person who makes all of canterburys rules couldnt remember making that rule. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I got yelled by a dealer at Wynn for "talking about a hand after it was over, because I was not in it". I was confused as could be afterwards.

We aren't that far away.

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Kinda off topic, but this reminded me of it. Playing drunken 3/6 at the Mirage 2 wks ago...I wasn't in the hand on the river and the BB (who didn't know what he was doing) checked and the button (who did know what he was doing) bet, That's when I say, "that guy bets 6 dollars he has the best hand right now."

The button goes ballistic on me saying that I can't talk about the hand if I'm not in it. I said that I wasn't talking about the hand, that I just made a comment that he had bet, but he was still ranting and raving about how it was against the rules. I said I knew the rules and if that's how it's gonna be, that's how it's gonna be I guess. The dealer said nothing during the entire episode, can't imagine he minded my comment, or was I out of line?

Anyway, the BB calls, Button shows KQ for K-high, and the BB shows K8 also for K-high and the button wins the pot.

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that guy bets 6 dollars

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= not out of line

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he has the best hand right now.

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= out of line

button going "ballistic" over 1 BB in a 3/6 at the mirage is probably out of line a tad also. i would have just said something about talking about the hands after the hand was over. i guess it was some local rock, and that BB was lunch money.

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Yes, that remark was completely out of line.

Oh, and I think I would like a "no railbird" rule.
Glad to see from some of the posts that the "wife/girlfriend sitting behind the player" thing is okay.

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Does anyone know why Mistake Lake doesn't open a room? Is it some sort of verbal agreement like, Mystic won't open a poker room if Canterbury lays off the slot machine quest or something? I think Mystic is the only MN casino w/o a poker room.

Mystic could build a real nice room, of course Canterbury would get killed then.

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that guy bets 6 dollars

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= not out of line

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he has the best hand right now.

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You know what, its just best that you don't say anything. Sure in print "that guy bets $6" may sound acceptable, but people speak with different tones and inflections, and whether or not you mean it, the way you say something may tell others more than your words do.

The comment made in the post "He bets $6 that he has the best hand" could easily be said in a way that indicates that the speaker doesn't agree with the bettors assessment of his hand.

I don't understand why players find it so difficult to keep quiet about a hand while it is in progress.

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that guy bets 6 dollars

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he has the best hand right now.

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You know what, its just best that you don't say anything. Sure in print "that guy bets $6" may sound acceptable, but people speak with different tones and inflections, and whether or not you mean it, the way you say something may tell others more than your words do.

The comment made in the post "He bets $6 that he has the best hand" could easily be said in a way that indicates that the speaker doesn't agree with the bettors assessment of his hand.

I don't understand why players find it so difficult to keep quiet about a hand while it is in progress.

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agreed. i didn't even interpret it right reading it in print.

he bets $6 he has the best hand right now.

completely different from

he bets $6. he has the best hand right now.

while i don't agree about talking about hands in progress, i stand by my post stating that "he bets $6" would not be out of line. i've even said stuff to this effect when there are people twiddling their thumbs when it is their turn to act, and the dealer isn't doing a good job of keeping the action going.

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Its true. The story I heard is some visting 30-60 player lost a lot of cash to a couple of guys her werre sweating each other. He claimed collusion and mamagement made a no sweating ever policy. The dealers are enforcing it pretty tight and I heard that a couple of them have been written up for ignoring it.

It has taken a lot of fun and some very good information from the 81-6 game.

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Its true. The story I heard is some visting 30-60 player lost a lot of cash to a couple of guys her werre sweating each other. He claimed collusion and mamagement made a no sweating ever policy. The dealers are enforcing it pretty tight and I heard that a couple of them have been written up for ignoring it.

It has taken a lot of fun and some very good information from the 81-6 game.

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Now I'm lost. I thought I knew what sweating was? But apparently I don't because this makes no sense to me.

What exactly is not being permitted now?

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What exactly is not being permitted now?

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Showing your hand to another player who's sitting in the game.

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Well then its a good rule.

When i say a person is sweating a player, I am talking about a guy who isn't playing in the game.

There is no reason to allow the nonsense where players keep showing thier cards to each.

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What exactly is not being permitted now?

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Showing your hand to another player who's sitting in the game.

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and depending on the floor, showing it to someone who's sweating the game behind you. like i said, floor on saturday got very uptight about this. it was my friends first time watching a game that high. a couple grumps at 30/60 got way bent out of shape

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While I think a rule barring spectators is retarded, it has always been the case that you may have someone sit behind you and watch your play only if no one at the table objects. Well, apparently people are objecting. They are deuschebags, but they put their money down and have the right to object. Banning sweaters if no one objects (which is the usual case) is retarded though and might cause some people to stop coming.

Not allowing people to flash cards to others in the game is a good rule and I wish it would be the case everywhere. Technically, someone can ask to see a hand even if it's discarded when a player has voluntarily shown it to another player in the game.

Jeff

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What exactly is not being permitted now?

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Showing your hand to another player who's sitting in the game.

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and depending on the floor, showing it to someone who's sweating the game behind you. like i said, floor on saturday got very uptight about this. it was my friends first time watching a game that high. a couple grumps at 30/60 got way bent out of shape

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Though I find this much less objectionable then showing them to another player, as a dealer i often problematic behavior with a sweater being shown cards.

Often time I see players who after showing their cards to friend sitting behind them, turn their head and look at the sweater then there is movement from the sweater (facial expression, shrug of the shoulder etc) which though it may be a tell to the observant players is violative of the one player to a hand rule. Oftens they are even talking to each other and I can't tell whether they are discussing the hand or discussing which strip club to visit.

I want them to have fun, but I also want to maintain the integrity of the game (I have seen players show their cards to sweaters and act in an entirely appropriate manner as well)

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Ann was playing at my 6/12 table and she said anyone not in the game can sweat, it only applies to those in the game. When I asked what the point was one of the floor guys told me it gives those people you show an edge that the people that dont see dont have. I said that was the dumbest [censored] I had ever heard because I had played with half the room before and probably had some inside information on how people play that new players didnt.

The rule is in place because of 1 (one) 30/60 player that was bitching. For the most part, all the staff dislikes the rule.

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Do you know which player complained? And what exactly was the situation?

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morongo has the same rule also.

if you stand behind a table and watch the game, the floormen will come and tell you to leave.

morongo is already pretty sh1tty but this just makes it that much more garbage.

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Why is everyone so upset by this? You can't see the genuine problem with showing your cards all the time? Don't bitch for the sake of bitching.

If I'm beating some ding-bat out of every pot we play together and he starts showing his cards to old man river to his right every time I suck out on him, it's gonna irk me a little bit.

I will never ask to see a mucked hand. But I sure do want to see it if someone else gets to.

Just muck your freakin' cards and stop crying. Sheesh.

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Yeah, I was sweating at the donkfest all you "pros" had at the 8 game at CB monday night. All of the "extra information" I got probably set me back about 9 months of poker devlopment. Nothing like drunken Jackpot-hunting, blind-capping and buying in for like 20 racks and making some sort of (totally awesome) helix thingy to draw the attention of all the jealous 4 and 6 players. That was like the scariest lineup/best game I've ever seen at CB 8.