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Go ahead. These are two topics in which I am knowledgable due to experience.

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did you get ass raped in prison?

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What'd you get convicted for and how many years?
Did you get ass-raped?
What kind of people did you meet / hang out with in prison?
What were your daily activities in prison?

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did you get ass raped in prison?

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no, but I did figure this would be the first question.

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how long were you in prison?

did you ass rape anyone in prison?

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What'd you get convicted for and how many years?
Did you get ass-raped?
What kind of people did you meet / hang out with in prison?
What were your daily activities in prison?

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Poss/intent to distrubte Marijuana (2 ounces)
Poss/intent to distribute Ecstacy (22 pills)
8 years, all but 16 months suspended

I met alot of gang members, and surprisingly, some very smart people. The first 4 months were in 22 hour lockup, so I mostly hung out with my cellmate. He was a 19 year old black kid who had 10 years for cocaine distribution and possession of a firearm.

Daily activities were basketball, weight lifting, and playing cards.

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How long does it take to inject yourself with ease? Did somebody shoot it for you the first couple of times? Were you nervous the first time shooting it?

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how long were you in prison?

did you ass rape anyone in prison?

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I had to serve 13.5 of the 16 months.

No.

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How long does it take to inject yourself with ease? Did somebody shoot it for you the first couple of times? Were you nervous the first time shooting it?

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About 2 minutes for the whole process of shooting. Somebody did it for me the first 2 times. Surprisingly, I wasn't nervous.

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Did you feel that prison "rehabilitated" you?

Would you ever go back?

Was it like an all=inclusive vacation?

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In broad strokes describe your life before and after prison. How do you feel your incarceration effected you? Positive? Negative? Did you feel rehabilitated or more cynical?

thank you,

-SmileyEH

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How did heroin compare to sex,a cocaine high, and the relief of a delayed urination?

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Is the "gang factor" as much of an issue as it is portrayed in movies/books? I.e. the Italians, blacks, muslims, asians, skin heads all have thier own faction within the prison, resulting in a delicate balance of power?

Also, were ass rapes as prevalent as is portrayed in popular media?

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How long does it take to inject yourself with ease? Did somebody shoot it for you the first couple of times? Were you nervous the first time shooting it?

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what compelled you to do heroine?

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Did you feel that prison "rehabilitated" you?

Would you ever go back?

Was it like an all=inclusive vacation?

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The only thing it did for me is got me to quit smoking weed, because obviously I couldn't (unless I wanted to pay 3 packs of cigarettes for a joint that is so small it wouldn't get me high).

I wouldn't voluntarily go back, but I could handle it. In the thread awhile back about 30 days in jail, or 1 year of house arrest, I voted for the 30 days. I must stress however that jail and prison are two completely different things, and that prison is 10 times better.

I wouldn't call it a vacation, but it was something that I learned alot from, mostly about human nature.

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What is the difference between "jail" and "prison"

How does the underground trade economy actually work in prison?

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In broad strokes describe your life before and after prison. How do you feel your incarceration effected you? Positive? Negative? Did you feel rehabilitated or more cynical?

thank you,

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Well, right before prison I was pretty screwed up. I was addicted to heroin for about 2 years. I didn't realize I was addicted for about a year, because I always had some (I traded weed for it, so it didn't cost me anything).

But before I got mixed up in hard drugs, I was an honor's student in high school, but decided to take a break before college. This was the biggest mistake i've ever made.

I kicked heroin while I was on bond awaiting trial, so for the most part I felt pretty rehabilitated before I was locked up.

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I must stress however that jail and prison are two completely different things, and that prison is 10 times better.

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What do you mean in the above quote?

How are the card games in prison?

Do the guards commonly confiscate your money, cigarettes etc.?

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How did heroin compare to sex,a cocaine high, and the relief of a delayed urination?

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Despite what people may say, doing heroin isn't comparable to an orgasm. It's an immediate warm rush through your body that feels really good. I know that basically sounds like an orgasm, but they're two different feelings, and I can't say that one is better than the other. Once you're really dependent on the heroin, you basically just stop feeling sick when you do it, instead of getting high.

It is a downer, so comparing it to cocaine is hard. I shot cocaine too, but not very often because I was a downer kind of person. It was usually cocaine and heroin together in one shot, which is a tremendous feeling. Also, urinating is very hard on heroin, and it feels good when you finally go. It is also hard to ejaculate, much like being very drunk, or high on coke.

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Is the "gang factor" as much of an issue as it is portrayed in movies/books? I.e. the Italians, blacks, muslims, asians, skin heads all have thier own faction within the prison, resulting in a delicate balance of power?

Also, were ass rapes as prevalent as is portrayed in popular media?

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The only issue with gangs (at least where I was locked up) was between the bloods/crips. The bloods/crips didn't really mess with the skin head types or the muslim types, but they messed with each other. There wasn't a large population of asians or italians.

To my knowledge, only one person was ass raped the whole time I was locked up.

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To my knowledge, only one person was ass raped the whole time I was locked up.

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how did you finally get him?

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Does it happen as much as people think it does?

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How long does it take to inject yourself with ease? Did somebody shoot it for you the first couple of times? Were you nervous the first time shooting it?

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what compelled you to do heroine?

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I used to do vicodin/percocet alot. It got to the point where I was crushing up 20 vicodins with a rolling pin, and eating them with a spoon. Then I started doing oxycontins. This then lead to heroin. Also, OC's, when shot up, give you the exact same feeling as heroin, and are just as powerful as the average, cut up bag of heroin. Well, the 40mgs and 80mgs are... anything less you need to do a couple of them.

I was just a sucker for the opiate high. It's something that I still think about occaisonally, and i've been clean for about 2.5 years.

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What is the difference between "jail" and "prison"

How does the underground trade economy actually work in prison?

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Jail is where you are brought when you are arressted, and where you serve city time. When you are sentenced to over a year, you are now property of the state (Department of Corrections) and are sent to prison. This is how it is in Virginia, and i'm pretty sure it's the same in most states.

Prison is the same as the street, only everything moves slower. There are drugs and there are drug dealers. Most people who are locked up are capable of selling drugs, but you have to be careful, which makes things move slower. Money is in the form of cigarettes usually, but could also be in the form of food, or stamps etc.

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Are the chain smokers the richest people?

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I must stress however that jail and prison are two completely different things, and that prison is 10 times better.

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What do you mean in the above quote?

How are the card games in prison?

Do the guards commonly confiscate your money, cigarettes etc.?

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Prison is better because you have more freedom. You can regularly go outside, you are guaranteed a bed, and you can buy alot more things (such as a TV and better food). Alot of jails are overcrowded and sometimes you have to sleep on a matress on the floor. Also, time moves alot quicker in prison, because you generally are assigned a job, which helps you get into a routine.

People in jail are good at cards, because they have plenty of time to practice. I played some spades and hearts, but most of the time I played poker, which consisted of 7 card stud, 5 card draw, and lowball using 10 cent chips.

You are allowed to have cigarettes in Prison, so they don't confiscate them. And technically gambling isn't allowed, so some guards will stop it, but alot off them don't care.

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Does it happen as much as people think it does?

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(I'm assuming you're talking about rape)

It happens, but nowhere near as often as you'd think. If you respect people, and stay out of their business, they treat you fine. For the most part, the people to look out for are the young kids who feel they have something to prove to the older guys.

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Are the chain smokers the richest people?

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The richest people are the ones with the weed. It costs 3 packs of cigarettes for a joint, generally. Newports were 3.65 a pack. A quarter ounce would likely yield 20 joints (they are insanely small).

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Were you ever involved in any escape attempts or riots, either directly or indirectly?

ScottieK

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Were you ever involved in any escape attempts or riots, either directly or indirectly?

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No. There was an escape at a lower security prison close to the one I was at, which caused us to be locked down for awhile.

Sussex 1 State Prison

This is where I was at. It's the second highest security prison in Virginia, and it is where VA's death row inmates are housed (in a seperate building). The DC sniper was housed here when I was there. He was transfered to Maryland for another trial, but he will return here before being executed.

If you're wondering why a drug dealer was housed here, it's because they have a classification area. You're sent here to be classified by security level, and then transfered to another prison. The classification can take up to 2 years, so I was released before I was transfered. Where you are sent for classification is random, and I just happened to get the worst pick out of the hat.

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To my knowledge, only one person was ass raped the whole time I was locked up.

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how did you finally get him?

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still laughing(with tears in my eyes)

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how did you finally get him?

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still laughing(with tears in my eyes)

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If you're seriously curious, he was raped because there was a fight that no officers witnessed. Since nobody would tell who was involved, everyone was locked down. After about three days, we came off lockdown after he was removed from the pod. He was then raped in a different pod for being a snitch.

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Could you get decent books?

What did you like most/hate most about prison?

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Did you rely on another opiate to help kick the habit? Methadose/Methadone?

How did you get your hands on such an abundant supply of OC's, Vicodin and the like? Give me specifics please.

Can there such a thing as a casual Vic user,or is it an inevitable downhill slide?

On a scale of 1-10, please rate the following: Vicodin, Oxy, Heroin, Percocet and where the hell do 222's fit in? any others?

Do you suffer from any physical problems from your drug abuse?

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Could you get decent books?

What did you like most/hate most about prison?

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There was a pretty large library to choose from. You could also have people mail you books, as long as they came directly from a publisher so they couldn't be tampered with. So, yes.

The thing I liked the most is the time you have to reflect. There's really not that much to like though. Basically, you just adjust.

Things I hated were the food, not having any freedom or internet, and having to listen to people talk about politics as if they actually know what they were talking about.

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"Did you rely on another opiate to help kick the habit? Methadose/Methadone?"

No. Methadone is just as addicting as heroin, only it doesn't give you a high. So basically, by taking methadone, you have just made it so you are addicted to something that you have to get from a clinic, and not get high from. I did take xanax and smoked weed through the withdrawl, but it was little help.


"How did you get your hands on such an abundant supply of OC's, Vicodin and the like? Give me specifics please."

Vicodin/Percocet/Tylox etc. are easy to obtain. People are given these by doctors liberally, and everyone is willing to sell them. As far as OC's, I met a guy with one leg who was prescribed 90 of the 40mgs, and 90 of the 20mgs a month. He was supposed to take 60mgs three times a day, and they don't make 60mg OCs, so he took one 40 and one 20 three times a day. He didn't take them though and sold them to me at 5 dollars a pill for the 40s and 2 dollars a pill for the 20's. Anyone who knows about OCs knows this is a ridiculously good deal because they can go for $1 a mg in most parts of he US.



"Can there such a thing as a casual Vic user,or is it an inevitable downhill slide?"

I know plenty of people who can take a vicodin occaisonally and drink some beers. Vicodin is very low on the opiate scale, and while it's very possible to be dependent on them, it is also possible to be a casual user. But chances are if you have access to stronger opiates, you will end up taking them, and you become addicted to them.

"On a scale of 1-10, please rate the following: Vicodin, Oxy, Heroin, Percocet and where the hell do 222's fit in? any others?"

Vicodin = 4
Percocet = 5
Oxy 20 = 6
Oxy 40 = 7
Oxy 80 = 8
Average bag of heroin = 8
Fentanyl = 9
Dilaudid = 9
"Raw" heroin = 10

I put raw in ""'s because you'll probably never see it actually raw, but you can get it with very little cut, however it goes for about 700-800 for a quarter ounce. Also note that once you're doing OC's and Heroin, vicodin and percocet are nothing more than tylenol. Also, morphine pills (MS Contin) aren't listed because you can't shoot them (well, you can, but they don't dissolve like OCs and don't get you as high).


"Do you suffer from any physical problems from your drug abuse?"

I have a tiny scar from where I used to shoot up, but it's not that noticeable. I probably suffer more mentally than physical. I think about it still occaisonally, and I know that if I wanted to I could find some within a half hour. But so far, so good...

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Could you get any items besides drugs, like a rock hammer? Im thinking Shawshank Redemption style, or is it just hollywood?

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Could you get any items besides drugs, like a rock hammer? Im thinking Shawshank Redemption style, or is it just hollywood?

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Anything is possible. It wouldn't be hard for an officer to bring something to an inmate, because this is how most drugs get in (or through visitation).

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Were you in any fights? Also good work on kicking the addiction. You seem like an intelligent guy, hope you can stay clean.

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Were you in any fights? Also good work on kicking the addiction. You seem like an intelligent guy, hope you can stay clean.

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Nope, no fights.... i'm pretty good at getting along with people.

Thanks... I haven't used any drugs in about 2.5 years (including weed and alcohol), and it feels pretty good.