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Matt Flynn 03-15-2006 10:24 PM

Screwing Someone Over Spectacularly
 
Suppose you want to screw someone over hard. I mean really, really hard. How would you go about it?

I have a simple battle plan and will post it Thurdsday 3/16/06 in the afternoon. Can OOT do better? We'll see.

Post your best strategy. And I am not talking about tying dead dogs to bumpers. You have to do much worse. Jail time or moderate injury should be a reasonable expectation. A guaranteed bankruptcy would be sufficient.

My goal is to show how easy it would be for an average person (or government group) with a good strategy to completely hose another with relatively minor risk.

Bullet_Dodger 03-15-2006 10:25 PM

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Hold on let me get the popcorn.

Villainaire 03-15-2006 10:25 PM

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This better be good.

Autocratic 03-15-2006 10:27 PM

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Acquiring SS numbers is far, far easier than most people think, and is probably the easiest way to go about doing something like this.

$_DEADSEXE_$ 03-15-2006 10:27 PM

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Steal their identity.
End of story.

surfinillini 03-15-2006 10:28 PM

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I'm waiting for JIHAD to chime in...

gumpzilla 03-15-2006 10:29 PM

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Suppose you want to screw someone over hard. I mean really, really hard. How would you go about it?

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I think it depends on what kind of access you have to them. For example, if you have relatively easy access to a computer mostly associated with them, doing something like planting child pornography on it seems like it would be incredibly destructive.

Matt Flynn 03-15-2006 10:30 PM

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Steal their identity.
End of story.

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Ok, reasonable effort that fit the parameters.

But still weak sauce.

Blarg 03-15-2006 10:38 PM

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Check their trash at the end of the day for credit card receipts, especially if you see they made a purchase at lunch or opened personal mail at the office.

On a lighter note, does NAMBLA have a newsletter?

AllIn3High 03-15-2006 10:39 PM

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Are you planning on employing this strategy? Or is this another reason why great minds shouldn't be idle?

Villainaire 03-15-2006 10:39 PM

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Acquiring SS numbers is far, far easier than most people think, and is probably the easiest way to go about doing something like this.

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Realistically, what can you do when you have their SS #?

mmcd 03-15-2006 10:59 PM

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Get a bunch of credit cards under their name for starters.

Villainaire 03-15-2006 11:00 PM

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Get a bunch of credit cards under their name for starters.

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So, just fill out an app or what?

Max Weinberg 03-15-2006 11:03 PM

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Buy enough coke so that it's technically "intent to distribute" and plant it in his car, using the lockpicking skills that people teach right here on OOT. Then you call the police from a payphone somewhere across town, masking your identity and not leaving any prints.

The most important thing, when buying this coke, you must buy it in smaller increments than the whole "intent to distribute" mass. If you try to find that much in one sitting, the only people willing to sell it to you will be undercover cops.

mmcd 03-15-2006 11:03 PM

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I haven't applied for a cc in a while, but I'm pretty sure ss# in the only "non-public" information that you need on an application.

Villainaire 03-15-2006 11:04 PM

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Buy enough coke so that it's technically "intent to distribute" and plant it in his car, using the lockpicking skills that people teach right here on OOT. Then you call the police from a payphone somewhere across town, masking your identity and not leaving any prints.

The most important thing, when buying this coke, you must buy it in smaller increments than the whole "intent to distribute" mass. If you try to find that much in one sitting, the only people willing to sell it to you will be undercover cops, or a drug dealer.

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Thremp 03-15-2006 11:04 PM

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Get alot of their personal information and put it where-ever you can find it. Photo copy it and leave it laying around for identity theft.

Or rape them.

mmcd 03-15-2006 11:06 PM

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Buy enough coke so that it's technically "intent to distribute" and plant it in his car, using the lockpicking skills that people teach right here on OOT. Then you call the police from a payphone somewhere across town, masking your identity and not leaving any prints.

The most important thing, when buying this coke, you must buy it in smaller increments than the whole "intent to distribute" mass. If you try to find that much in one sitting, the only people willing to sell it to you will be undercover cops.

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You need to cook it up into crack first (a relatively simple and safe process by my understanding) in order to greatly increase his sentence.

Blarg 03-15-2006 11:07 PM

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Sometimes on a credit card application they confirm your place of employment.

As to possession with intent to distribute, that can depend substantially on how it is packaged. Even small amounts can get you, if they are divided up into a bunch of small sellable units. A random weight or number in larger amounts can be not nearly as damaging to be caught with.

Idi the Nigerian 03-15-2006 11:10 PM

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Realistically, what can you do when you have their SS #?

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Once you have this number the world is your oyster, my friend.

Duke 03-15-2006 11:10 PM

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Iocaine powder.

~D

Aloysius 03-15-2006 11:14 PM

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Matt - hijack their 2+2 account. Start posting on OOT about "weird lingering sexual attraction towards men", and in HSNL on the merits of "value betting underpairs on double-paired boards". The coup de grace would be to make intelligent, reasonable posts in WPT and SMP.

-Al

Villainaire 03-15-2006 11:14 PM

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Realistically, what can you do when you have their SS #?

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Once you have this number the world is your oyster, my friend.

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Uhh... can someone go a little further in depth?

Tilt 03-15-2006 11:18 PM

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Assuming you are pretty close to the person and that they have a little Arab or Muslim blood in their background, you could do the following. It would probably have to be a roomate or something to make this all work. Also most ideal if your victim is a foreign national.

1) Use his computer to surf websites that would make him appear sympathetic to Al Qaeda. Post inflammatory political statements from his computer to various websites. Also visit websites that explain bomb making, that discuss the vulnerabilities of nuclear facilities, that have subway or other infrastructure plans, etc.

2) Send his resume to apply for jobs at nuclear facilities, port authorities, perhaps immigration jobs, anything suspicious.

3) Before he is scheduled to fly somewhere, sprinkle gunpowder lightly on his shoes and his bags. Sew a small pocket Koran and knife into the lining of his bag. Fold a tattered page of paper that vaguely and incompletely describes plans that involve the location of other participants and a bomb. If you could get this into arabic that would be ideal.

4) Before he leaves for the airport, call the FBI terrorist hotline. Tell them you suspect he is planning on bringing the plane down, but that they should be really careful since he is carrying concealed weapons and is trained in martial arts.

5) Next call the press. Make yourself available for interviews, when he gets picked up tell the press how much time he spent last summer in Kazakhstan (or someplace similar) and how he has never been the same since, with weird friends, etc.

I am sure others can improve on the details. I think something like this would be tough to recover from. There is a chance he might just get shot, and there will be enough going on that he will be in for a real investigation.

Hopey 03-15-2006 11:18 PM

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Realistically, what can you do when you have their SS #?

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Once you have this number the world is your oyster, my friend.

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Uhh... can someone go a little further in depth?

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Send Idi your SS# and I'm sure he'll give you a thorough demonstration.

cardsharkk04 03-15-2006 11:20 PM

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Trick his parents into wandering into a persons yard that shoots trespassers. Then use their body parts as ingredients to make chile. Then feed the chile to him. Don't tell him until he's almost finished eating it.

Blarg 03-15-2006 11:21 PM

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Reel 'im in, Idi, reel him in.

Blarg 03-15-2006 11:22 PM

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Throw a Baby Ruth bar into his pool during a party.

administrator 03-15-2006 11:35 PM

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Hire this guy: http://www.columbus.com.lb/columbus/lib/ricochet.jpg

GambleGamble 03-16-2006 12:15 AM

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Acquiring SS numbers is far, far easier than most people think, and is probably the easiest way to go about doing something like this.

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I can locate anyone, and yes I mean most anyones SSN with full name and city info, if I know enough about you personally I could easily cause havoc in a persons life....thank god Im no criminal

Villainaire 03-16-2006 12:18 AM

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Acquiring SS numbers is far, far easier than most people think, and is probably the easiest way to go about doing something like this.

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I can locate anyone, and yes I mean most anyones SSN with full name and city info, if I know enough about you personally I could easily cause havoc in a persons life....thank god Im no criminal

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What EXACTLY would you do though?

The Ocho 03-16-2006 12:21 AM

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tricking the guy into killing his own wife and kids would be pretty harsh. i can't come up with a plan right now but i imagine PCP would be involved. bonus points if his wife is pregnant.

surfinillini 03-16-2006 12:22 AM

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Acquiring SS numbers is far, far easier than most people think, and is probably the easiest way to go about doing something like this.

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I can locate anyone, and yes I mean most anyones SSN with full name and city info, if I know enough about you personally I could easily cause havoc in a persons life....thank god Im no criminal

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What EXACTLY would you do though?

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destroy your credit?
max out bogus credit cards?
empty bank accounts electronically

really the worst possible [censored] in today's world

DoomSlice 03-16-2006 12:26 AM

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Plant a firearm in someone's carry-on bag before they enter the airport.

surfinillini 03-16-2006 12:27 AM

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Plant a firearm in someone's carry-on bag before they enter the airport.

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that's only a felony...life goes on (after ~12 years)

The Ocho 03-16-2006 12:28 AM

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Villainaire 03-16-2006 12:28 AM

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destroy your credit?
max out bogus credit cards?


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What do you have to do on your part?

gumpzilla 03-16-2006 12:30 AM

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that's only a felony...life goes on (after ~12 years)

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Doesn't bankruptcy only screw you for 7 years? Not to mention that I think going to serious prison is probably going to be far worse than having no credit.

Autocratic 03-16-2006 12:30 AM

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destroy your credit?
max out bogus credit cards?


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What do you have to do on your part?

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Why are you so interested? If you've ever opened a bank account, you'd realize how easy it is - with an SS# all you need is their basic info and you can open up accounts, transfer money, get credit cards, etc.

Dudd 03-16-2006 12:31 AM

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Plant a firearm in someone's carry-on bag before they enter the airport.

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that's only a felony...life goes on (after ~12 years)

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Plant some jihad, allah is great, death to infidel quotes in their, and bam, instant Gitmo.


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