My first ever squeeze in a tourney
 

How's this look? Standard? Spewy? Should the raise be larger?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) converter

SB (t3855)
BB (t3300)
UTG (t2963)
UTG+1 (t6914)
MP1 (t3300)
MP2 (t5850)
MP3 (t5525)
CO (t313)
Hero (t5355)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t500</font>, MP1 calls t500, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1600</font>

Re: My first ever squeeze in a tourney
 

reads? and i think you need to raise more

Re: My first ever squeeze in a tourney
 

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reads? and i think you need to raise more

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New to the table. No read on MP1. UTG+1 had just won a huge pot to get his big stack and was starting to get a bit overaggro.

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When UTG+1 raises to 5xBB, I tend to believe him, unless I've got a pretty good reason not to. Seems spewy.

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No likey.

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Ehhhhhhh, I don't know. Lots of missing info for starters. Buy-in? Reads? Did the fact you had A5s play any factor (it shouldn't for a squeeze and in fact I'd prefer to push with 65s then A5s). The raise is pretty small which I don't like, but kind of do. It definitely looks like you're trying to get some action. A normal raise would essentially be a push because of the stack sizes involved. But understand that you're pretty much pot committed by making that small raise. It's also a little riskier to make this move on the button then in the blinds.

But at the end of the day, it worked. So for whatever reason you made this play it was the right reason.

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if his standard preflop raise with 5x I like it as long as you raise to something liek 2000+, 1600 just doesn't seem to have any fold equity.

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if his standard preflop raise with 5x I like it as long as you raise to something liek 2000+, 1600 just doesn't seem to have any fold equity.

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That was my first reaction as well. But because of the stack sizes raising to 1600 essentially says that you're pot committed so it has more folding equity than if the stacks were much deeper.

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I don't like making this move, at all, with A5. A 5xBB early raise smells like AJ+ to me, and although you have FE you need to make the bet big enough to hurt both players, which (with your stack) means committing yourself to this hand. I would like this much better with 78s through JTs or something along those lines.

Re: My first ever squeeze in a tourney
 

If you're going to do it, commit to it and raise like half your stack or more.

However at 50/100 this is going to crash and burn a majority of the time.

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reads? and i think you need to raise more

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New to the table. No read on MP1. UTG+1 had just won a huge pot to get his big stack and was starting to get a bit overaggro.

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.. squeeze's are read based.. if you dont know this guy is opening loose, and you don't know MP2 knows taht, then what are you basing this on? just that you have an ace, and randomly don't want to believe him?

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reads? and i think you need to raise more

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New to the table. No read on MP1. UTG+1 had just won a huge pot to get his big stack and was starting to get a bit overaggro.

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I think you posted this when I was posting mine. With this info, you just cannot make this move. Period. It is very much -EV. Particularly with a weak Ace but I wouldn't do this unless I had a good sense that the raiser was a bit aggro and the caller a bit loose.

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if you raise the same hands to 1500 as you would to 2000, raising to 2000 will have more fold equity.

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reads? and i think you need to raise more

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New to the table. No read on MP1. UTG+1 had just won a huge pot to get his big stack and was starting to get a bit overaggro.

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.. squeeze's are read based.. if you dont know this guy is opening loose, and you don't know MP2 knows taht, then what are you basing this on? just that you have an ace, and randomly don't want to believe him?

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The most essential read that you need to have is that the opener is opening light because the caller most likely has a weak hand or else he would've re-rasied.

Re: My first ever squeeze in a tourney
 

All,

As I mentioned, UTG+1 was getting overaggro and was raising light. Also, 5xBB was his standard opener.

The fact that I had a suited ace really didn't play much in my thinking here but for the fact that I thought it stood a pretty good chance of being ahead of UTG+1 (not that it mattered since I was looking for a fold). Also, I figured that MP1's stack was such that any hand that would call or push behind the raise would have 3-bet initially.

Also, this is probably going to make this play even worse, it was in one of the $1 MTTs on Stars.

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ya poboy with a light raiser I like this play a lot I just think no one is going anywhere when you raise to 1600.

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lol yes. that makes the play worse.

My money play in those use to be to open push my premium hands w/ 50+BB stacks.

Beecause people don't fold.