ReduceTheRake Players What to do now?
 

Whatever the arguments are about how much we should get paid for Feb, how it should have been worked out, and if our affiliate is a good guy or not.
I think a more important point is what are we going to do from now on?
I read an old post where it said RTR had over 400 players at the site we have all lost our RB at. I'm sure this number increased a great deal before the trackers finally got closed down.
With this many players floating about many of whom are high volume I think we have a fair amount of negotiating power if we worked together to get new deals.

If you are a RTR player please take part in the poll and post your comments to get a good discussion going about how we go forward. If you’re not a RTR player then please do not skew the results by voting. (I've made the poll visible to all so non RTR players don't vote just to see the results)

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"Stop playing on that site"

I hope you all move to Absolute or all start being props for InterPoker or something.

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This was the other problem I had in dealing with RTR. I offered to work something out long term, even offered to take a good deal less % until things settled---he wasn't interested.

But, when I mentioned that I would close the account, he went 'Huh?' and suddenly was all concerned. I was naive to believe his original promises, and I should have done better research, live and learn, but I'm not going to just continue to play and generate income for RTR for free.

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In the immediate future I will be closing my account.

In the long term? I don't know. I guess I'll wait as long as Party deems necessary and then open a new account - using better judgement before selecting a rewards program or affiliate of course.

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"Join together to get a great group deal with a new affiliate"

WTF ?

Let me get this straight. Your affiliate got shut down for giving rakeback. Some of you actually think that a "group" of you (his players) moving to a different affiliate is going to get you a great deal ?

Yah . . . I'm sure that won't raise any red flags . . .

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Isn't party completely cutting reducetherake's payments? How does continuing to play on an account signed up under them give them anything?

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Isn't party completely cutting reducetherake's payments? How does continuing to play on an account signed up under them give them anything?

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no he is continuing to receive payments from party and will as long as he stays an affiliate

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?????????? Then why aren't we getting paid? I thought they were cutting him off totally.

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?????????? Then why aren't we getting paid? I thought they were cutting him off totally.

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Because he's ripping you off.

Why do people scam others? FOR MONEY

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"Join together to get a great group deal with a new affiliate"

WTF ?

Let me get this straight. Your affiliate got shut down for giving rakeback. Some of you actually think that a "group" of you (his players) moving to a different affiliate is going to get you a great deal ?

Yah . . . I'm sure that won't raise any red flags . . .

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Especially don't post about it on a public forum.

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"Join together to get a great group deal with a new affiliate"

WTF ?

Let me get this straight. Your affiliate got shut down for giving rakeback. Some of you actually think that a "group" of you (his players) moving to a different affiliate is going to get you a great deal ?

Yah . . . I'm sure that won't raise any red flags . . .

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Especially don't post about it on a public forum.

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Obviously this is just a poll. Any arrangements would be done it private

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None of the above. I'm going to close my current Party account and see if I can get them to reopen my old one. Funding my current account with Firepay is a pain in the butt anyway.

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I am closing my account for sure.

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None of the above. I'm going to close my current Party account and see if I can get them to reopen my old one. Funding my current account with Firepay is a pain in the butt anyway.

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Is this possible to reopen an old account? Wont they ask questions? Do you just call and ask to reopen the account?

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Sent an email to close my account. Will probably just sign up with party directly, screw it. Perhaps I can use that as leverage in future bonus negotiations, "Well, I signed up directly with you so you don't pay any affiliates a dime for my rake, you can do better than that."

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Sent an email to close my account. Will probably just sign up with party directly, screw it. Perhaps I can use that as leverage in future bonus negotiations, "Well, I signed up directly with you so you don't pay any affiliates a dime for my rake, you can do better than that."

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LOL

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I am going to finish A8-bonus and after that I am going to close my account. Then I'll become affiliate myself(or get a family member to do it) , because I don't believe that I'll find affiliate that can give rb longterm. I am big MGR player, so of course I am very disappointed with situation with RTR, not because they only give 15% for February, but because I have to start searching/closing/depositing/dealing with CS thing again, I hate to do this every f'ing other month. I wish Tim would have been more careful with interaccount transfers etc. I also would have been content with lower rate(like 20% or even lower) if I knew that I'll get that longterm.

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Is this possible to reopen an old account? Wont they ask questions? Do you just call and ask to reopen the account?

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I would like to know this. Can I use my old Neteller?

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...with a whole lot of bitches jumpin ship.

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Im currently caught up in this mess too. I dont want to give ANY money to rtr in anyway, but I've closed my account at pp once and I'm really not looking forward to doing it again.

Has anyone considered to just continue playing for the VIP bonuses? I was upgraded this month and have yet to receive an offer but I thought it might be worth it to stay. What do other ppl think?

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Im currently caught up in this mess too. I dont want to give ANY money to rtr in anyway, but I've closed my account at pp once and I'm really not looking forward to doing it again.

Has anyone considered to just continue playing for the VIP bonuses? I was upgraded this month and have yet to receive an offer but I thought it might be worth it to stay. What do other ppl think?

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i think it's a great idea if you like the idea of him pocketing money you could be getting back somewhere else for the rest of your pp career. i'm sure rtr's jizzing all over it

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Im currently caught up in this mess too. I dont want to give ANY money to rtr in anyway, but I've closed my account at pp once and I'm really not looking forward to doing it again.

Has anyone considered to just continue playing for the VIP bonuses? I was upgraded this month and have yet to receive an offer but I thought it might be worth it to stay. What do other ppl think?

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i think it's a great idea if you like the idea of him pocketing money you could be getting back somewhere else for the rest of your pp career. i'm sure rtr's jizzing all over it

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No, I HATE the idea of rtr keeping my money. But I guess I'm most worried about closing and opening a new pp account under a new affiliate and then the same thing happening.

What I'm trying to say is that since pp is so bent on killing all rb, would it be an ok idea to just give up on it and stay with the vip program?

Obviously I would rather have rb, but if I can only have it for a few months at a time due to affiliates being shut down and me having to close and open a new account all the time then maybe just the vip bonuses would be close/comparable to what I would have gotten from pp rb anyways.

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Im currently caught up in this mess too. I dont want to give ANY money to rtr in anyway, but I've closed my account at pp once and I'm really not looking forward to doing it again.

Has anyone considered to just continue playing for the VIP bonuses? I was upgraded this month and have yet to receive an offer but I thought it might be worth it to stay. What do other ppl think?

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i think it's a great idea if you like the idea of him pocketing money you could be getting back somewhere else for the rest of your pp career. i'm sure rtr's jizzing all over it

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No, I HATE the idea of rtr keeping my money. But I guess I'm most worried about closing and opening a new pp account under a new affiliate and then the same thing happening.

What I'm trying to say is that since pp is so bent on killing all rb, would it be an ok idea to just give up on it and stay with the vip program?

Obviously I would rather have rb, but if I can only have it for a few months at a time due to affiliates being shut down and me having to close and open a new account all the time then maybe just the vip bonuses would be close/comparable to what I would have gotten from pp rb anyways.

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you do realize that the reason rtr got caught is because he made the dumb move of paying customers with intraaccount transfers on party right? find another guy who doesn't and you're golden. there are many other affiliates who aren't stupid like he was and will be just fine

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I was paid through neteller.

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I was paid through neteller.

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from what i've read here, just about everyone was paid through party transfers

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Even if you opened another account it probably won't take terribly long to get into the vip program anyway, but then again I don't know what the criteria is. Does anyone else?

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My records show that in February I was paid through neteller, but I think before that it was through party.

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Can you do the prop. thing on absolute or InterPoker and get ~100% Rake-back???

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None of the above. I'm going to close my current Party account and see if I can get them to reopen my old one. Funding my current account with Firepay is a pain in the butt anyway.

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Is this possible to reopen an old account? Wont they ask questions? Do you just call and ask to reopen the account?

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I emailed them that I wanted my account closed, the one I opened with reduce the rake. Once they confirmed that that account had been closed I switched email addresses and emailed them that I wanted my old account reopened (they require that you email them from the account they have on file) and they just sent me a welcome back message, simple as that. Heck, I even have $10 in my old account.

Let me add that I don't really play on Party and never enough to actually get paid any rakeback after the bonuses were deducted from my MGR. I had just planned for the long term is all but I prefer other sites. I do think what RTR did is pretty uncool, especially after I got all kinds of assurances from him that he WOULDN'T do EXACTLY what he's done. Deception or incompetence, either way, it doesn't cut it with me. But the old rule applies that if it sounds too good to be true... well, you know the rest.

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you do realize that the reason rtr got caught is because he made the dumb move of paying customers with intraaccount transfers on party right? find another guy who doesn't and you're golden. there are many other affiliates who aren't stupid like he was and will be just fine

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Funny, I have been paying players through inter-account transfer for a couple years now, even in some instances having Party faciliate transfers if the player was over his transfer limit or what have you. Who would ever think that Party would look to shut down affiliates who build their whole business on violating the T&C, while giving other affiliates who do things the right way a little leeway for certain things?