NORM: It\'s spitsville for Negreanu, Wynn
 

NORM: It's spitsville for Negreanu, Wynn

The poker world is buzzing about the divorce of whiz-kid Daniel Negreanu and Wynn Las Vegas.

Negreanu, the 2004 Player of the Year, served as the Wynn's "poker ambassador" since it opened in April. He confirmed the recent split in a poker chat room, saying he wanted to play in big games and "it was important to them that I played exclusively at the Wynn."

Negreanu honored the contract, he said, and "we amicably parted ways."

Las Vegas Review-Journal

NORM: Vince Neil and Johnny Chan .... from the same column
 

"Motley Crue's Vince Neil and poker ace Johnny Chan are involved in the inaugural "Off the Strip" charity poker tournament today at the Hard Rock Hotel."

Norm really digs deep for his "Separated at Birth" feature.

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"Motley Crue's Vince Neil and poker ace Johnny Chan are involved in the inaugural "Off the Strip" charity poker tournament today at the Hard Rock Hotel."


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That's funny. They are having an invitational charity tournament at the Aladdin right now, now the Hard Rock.

Re: NORM: Vince Neil and Johnny Chan .... from the same column
 

I recall reading after the final table, a few of the final table participants, (Black, Kondracki, Lazar I think) were racing go-carts somewhere while the dealers were complaining about being stiffed by them.

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The World Series of Poker's top five finishers, Joe Hachem, Steve Dannenmann, Tex Barch, Aaron Kanter and Andrew Black, tipping with C-notes after racing at Fast Lap Indoor Kart Racing. They could afford it. Between them, they won $18 million, topped by Hachem's $7.5 million.

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[/ QUOTE ] Dealers who put in marathon shifts at the World Series of Poker are grousing about the lack of respect they received from the top winners. One of the miffed dealers wasn't pleased to read Wednesday's item here about the top five finishers tossing around $100 tips at Fast Lap Indoor Kart Racing. According to the dealer, the top five, who hauled in a total of $18 million, didn't share the wealth with the 450 dealers, who made $5.15 an hour. ...

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Hi Kevmath:

I bet if these tournaments didn't take 3 percent out of the prize pool for the staff the tips would be better. What do you think?

Best wishes,
Mason

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Hi Jedster:

I think this is long run good for The Wynn Poker Room. I still believe they have a chance to become a major force in Las Vegas poker, especially since they seem to be the place with many no limit games of different sizes.

This decision should allow the management and Staff at Wynn Poker to concentrate more on their day to day operation and on creating consistently good games.

Best wishes,
Mason

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Hi Kevmath:

I bet if these tournaments didn't take 3 percent out of the prize pool for the staff the tips would be better. What do you think?

Best wishes,
Mason

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I agree with what you're saying, although I thought it was 2% towards the staff, 4% to Harrah's. That's the breakdown according to what I see on PokerPages.

My point was really more towards the fact that the top 5 in the WSOP ME were allegedly racing go-karts. I can imagine maybe one, but 5? Seems a bit far-fetched to me.

Re: NORM: Vince Neil and Johnny Chan .... from the same column
 

I think many of the events were 3% but the main-event was "only" 2% for the dealers (as best I recall off the top of my head).

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Does this mean the challenge matches are over?

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Hopefully this will mean the Wynn and FTP do another live Invitational to cross promote since they've lost their big poker draw.

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Does this mean the challenge matches are over?

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I'm sure Negreanu will have one with you at his home if you call him up. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Hopefully this will mean the Wynn and FTP do another live Invitational to cross promote since they've lost their big poker draw.

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The problem is they didn't have a big poker draw. Hopefully traditional promotions will bring more action to the Wynn. It's was just a bad idea for both parties and it makes sense to end it.

Re: NORM: It\'s spitsville for Negreanu, Wynn
 

I'm sure Barry Greenstein is quite psyched to have Danny in the big game again.

Re: NORM: Vince Neil and Johnny Chan .... from the same column
 

I think taking out 3% makes sense.

Honestly, if I win 7.5 million in the WSOP (yeah, right) am I gonna 'tip' 3%? 225K?

Absolutely not. And then I'm in a bind, because if I flip the final table dealer a couple hundred bucks, hoi polloi will grumble about what a 'cheapskate' I am (cough...).

Better to take the discretion out of it.

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It was inevitable. DN was never really enthused about his "ambassadorship".

WSOP Tips
 

I've heard a lot about dealer griping in regards to lack of tipping at the WSOP this year. What I don't understand is why dealers expect to be tipped twice. Harrah's made a decision to force the players to give 2-3 percent right off the top. I don't agree with that, but if I was forced to tip up front, why would I then give a big chunk of additional money after cashing, especially if I wasn't given a decision to offer the tip in the first place?

The situation with Mike Matusow comes to mind, where the dealer accused him of throwing cards at her. Every player at his table said Matusow did no such thing, then she flagged him for an f-bomb that he whispered to his neighbor. Why would he want to tip the dealers?

I understand the human nature of the dealers, they see people raking in unreal amounts of money and want a piece of it. Fine, but you don't get it both ways, either take your cut off the top or take your chances with winners providing tokes. I value the skills of an excellent dealer, but not enough to double-tip.

Re: NORM: It\'s spitsville for Negreanu, Wynn
 

Hi Everyone:

I'm just curious, but has Negreanu commented on his leaving Wynn? and if he has, could someone provide a link.

Thanks,
Mason

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The situation with Mike Matusow comes to mind, where the dealer accused him of throwing cards at her. Every player at his table said Matusow did no such thing, then she flagged him for an f-bomb that he whispered to his neighbor. Why would he want to tip the dealers?

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First off, this isn't a tipping thread. Stop hijacking.

Second, the dealer was a guy. Asian to be exact.

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It was inevitable. DN was never really enthused about his "ambassadorship".

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Really, wow!

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Hi Everyone:

I'm just curious, but has Negreanu commented on his leaving Wynn? and if he has, could someone provide a link.

Thanks,
Mason

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http://fullcontactpoker.com/poker-fo...7&start=40

"I honored my contract and decided to part ways with Wynn Las Vegas because I wanted to have the opportunity to play in the big game. It was important to them that I played exclusively at Wynn Las Vegas, so we amicably parted ways."

Seems that he took your advice to heart and decided it would be better to employ a non-self-weighting strategy than a self-weighting one...

http://www.twoplustwo.com/gambling.html

Re: NORM: It\'s spitsville for Negreanu, Wynn
 

Let's say that the Wynn offered you $X a year to play exclusively at the Wynn when playing at a Vegas casino. How much would $X have to be for you to accept?

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Second, the dealer was a guy. Asian to be exact.

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And race has exactly what to do with this?

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Second, the dealer was a guy. Asian to be exact.

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And race has exactly what to do with this?

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Nothing, just pointing out that the OP was mistaken.

Stop reading into things you nit.

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Second, the dealer was a guy. Asian to be exact.

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And race has exactly what to do with this?

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Comedy.

OMFG!!!111!!!!11 HE CALLED SOMEONE ASIAN!!!!

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And gender is related exactly how to the Matusow/dealer dispute?

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Second, the dealer was a guy. Asian to be exact.

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And race has exactly what to do with this?

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Nothing, just pointing out that the OP was mistaken.

Stop reading into things you nit.

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this isn't a tipping thread.

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Discussing tipping is always +EV. I see Tipping tourney dealers dilemma was unfortunately locked,

but there is a tipping discussion at WSOP 2005-- a dealers perspective

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WTF is with all the year-old-thread bumping, dude?

Seriously, this is lame.