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So I'm pretty new to the whole working world. I'm a fresh college grad working in my first 9-5 cubicle job. There are some pretty nice looking mid 20s hotties as well as a few hot MILFS in senior staff, lower management, and upper management positions. I can't help but wonder if any of them engaged in some "extracurricular activities" outside the office at some point to help their career. We probably have about 300-500 employees total, that work at my facility.

To you guys who have been working in the office atmosphere longer and have probably heard all sorts of rumors and gossip, how prevalent do you think sleeping with higher-ups to get promotions is? Does it happen more than one would think? Is it not that common and over-exaggerated?

I guess my gut feeling is that it's rare, but perhaps I'm naive?

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It happens more than one would think.

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FYP

And as a guy you have to be hit on btw. Don't ever try and initiate the contact.

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It happens about as often as pizza delivery girls [censored] customers after opening the box only to find their dick sticking through the middle of the (usually sausage) pizza.

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CREAM - my guess is it's pretty industry dependent. Here in Hollywood - happens all the time.

-Al

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People definitely sleep there way up. Definitely

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It is fairly common and I think it is a perfectly acceptable way for a woman to advance in a corporation and it should not bring scorn.

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It happens about as often as pizza delivery girls [censored] customers after opening the box only to find their dick sticking through the middle of the (usually sausage) pizza.

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Incorrect. Unless the pizza thing happens a lot.

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I can't help but wonder if any of them engaged in some "extracurricular activities" outside the office at some point to help their career.


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I'm sure some of them haven't. As a rule of thumb though I bide by the rule: Don't fish out of the company pond. It's +EV

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A few years ago, my ex-girlfriend did it about a month after she and I broke up. Or possibly before that, unbeknownst to me. Lesson: Don't date at work. Or just don't date whores at work, but you're probably safer going with the former.

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Happens a lot. Heck, I've SEEN it happen.

It's also not necessarily presented in a fashion as if it were as dubious as it really is. That is, what you might see as a douchebag boss hiring some young bimbo and boning her as she quickly rises to the top, or boning someone already well-established in the company who suddenly gets completely different treatment around the place and inevitable raises and promotions, can always be passed off as anything from true love to never actually happening at all. It's all part of the game, and a vagina is one of the playing cards.

A bit of advice: if you're new to the working world, feel your way around situations carefully, because there is every type of incest and politics going on. Don't think that doing the right thing and being a good employee is always going to matter; often the most important thing is picking your battles carefully.

Unfortunately, biatches who are sleeping with the boss often look for people to pick fights with, so sometimes the battle comes to you.

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I think attractive women might move up the promotion ladder faster because higher management 1)prefers hot women or 2) wants to make the company seem "diverse", but I highly doubt any significant percentage of them engaged in anything sexual.

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Blarg - Nice phrase:

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It's all part of the game, a vagina is one of the playing cards

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Also, WTF is going on at 2+2?!?!?!

-Al

Edit - Oh, just read the stickied post. I'm not in favor of this new design.

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They are also more "front office." They can sometimes sell your company well to other people just by showing up, which is especially important in a job where you will meet lots of people from other companies, or in sales.

Plus, everybody likes a beautiful woman, except sometimes for other women. And even they usually like them too. Human nature.

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If vagina is a playing card then having a penis must be the hammer.

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If vagina is a playing card then having a penis must be the hammer.

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Having a penis can go from the Hammer all the way to pocket rockets, depending on stack size.

JJ

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If vagina is a playing card then having a penis must be the hammer.

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Having a penis can go from the Hammer all the way to pocket rockets, depending on stack size.

JJ

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Be careful with those poker analogies in OOT. A lot of people don't take too kindly to them. I'm just giving you a warning before the people who are not as nice as me get to you.

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The real problem is that you would think that because they're female and attractive that maybe they didn't truly deserve thier jobs and slept with someone to get where they are. Do you think this when you see ugly women in leadership roles? Do you think this when you see men in positions of power?

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To the OP
The real problem is that you would think that because they're female and attractive that maybe they didn't truly deserve thier jobs and slept with someone to get where they are. Do you think this when you see ugly women in leadership roles? Do you think this when you see men in positions of power?

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No one assumes this about men because "sleeping to the top" doesn't work for us. Don't think we haven't tried.

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Funny story.

One day when I used to smoke I went to the stairwell in my building for a quick one and I walked in on some guy doinking a girl. He bolts and leaves her there. Her dress is hiked up around her waist and her panties are around her ankles and she can't walk so she is bunny hopping down the stairs trying to get away. Quite a sight. I can't imagine the [censored] he took from her after for leaving her there.

Anyway about two weeks later I get on a packed elevator and I look down at the girl next to me and she looks back and then all of a sudden her face turns beet red and she puts her head down and I realized it's the bunny hop girl. I tried to suppress the laugh but it came out in one of those awful snorty sneezing attacks.

Moral of the story. Find your booty somewhere else.

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Elaine,

Some women advance their careers by sleeping w/ their superiors. Guys are more likely to get undeserved promotions due to superiors being their frat buddies than by sleeping their way there.

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Well, when you take into account the high level of natural attraction women have to males in positions of power with the fact that the sleeping around will likely lead to other benefits in this situation any economist could tell you how common this is. Statistical Studies will tell you the same
PS I'm on the left in politics if anybody is, and not every woman in a position of power has achieved that position via this method by any means.

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A bit of advice: if you're new to the working world, feel your way around situations carefully, because there is every type of incest and politics going on. Don't think that doing the right thing and being a good employee is always going to matter; often the most important thing is picking your battles carefully.

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I'm trying to decide whether it's good or bad that I've spent extensive undergrad time in a student newspaper with a similar atmosphere of incest and politics. That's always been the one part of it I hated, but maybe it's prepared me to navigate a similar real-life situation a bit better.

Are all offices this way? Someone please tell me no.

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Elaine,

Some women advance their careers by sleeping w/ their superiors. Guys are more likely to get undeserved promotions due to superiors being their frat buddies than by sleeping their way there.

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Also, ElDiabloIsRight. And ElaineMonster should stop trying to turn everything into a feminist issue.

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I'd have to say not every woman, my example:

Condoleeza Rice

Crovax

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I'd have to say not every woman, my example:

Condoleeza Rice

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Point taken.

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To the OP
The real problem is that you would think that because they're female and attractive that maybe they didn't truly deserve thier jobs and slept with someone to get where they are. Do you think this when you see ugly women in leadership roles? Do you think this when you see men in positions of power?

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No one assumes this about men because "sleeping to the top" doesn't work for us. Don't think we haven't tried.

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Heheheh.

For what it's worth, I've seen so many women trying to use their feminine wiles on bosses that to me it's pretty much standard. Kinda sickening actually, not only because it prostitutes the women, but because it changes the work arena into one in which men can't fairly compete.

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Happens a lot. Heck, I've SEEN it happen.

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link?

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To the OP
The real problem is that you would think that because they're female and attractive that maybe they didn't truly deserve thier jobs and slept with someone to get where they are. Do you think this when you see ugly women in leadership roles? Do you think this when you see men in positions of power?

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No one assumes this about men because "sleeping to the top" doesn't work for us. Don't think we haven't tried.

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Heheheh.

For what it's worth, I've seen so many women trying to use their feminine wiles on bosses that to me it's pretty much standard. Kinda sickening actually, not only because it prostitutes the women, but because it changes the work arena into one in which men can't fairly compete.

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Oh, c'mon now Blarg. That's more than a bit of a stretch.

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I was under impression that chicks nowadays sleep with bosses not for raises and promotions but to sue the company for sexual harassment , no?

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I'm talking about what I've experienced, to be clearer, and experienced repeatedly. It really depends on what kind of work and work environment you're in, and I wouldn't say it applies universally. And didn't.

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I'm talking about what I've experienced, to be clearer, and experienced repeatedly. It really depends on what kind of work and work environment you're in, and I wouldn't say it applies universally. And didn't.

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Well, you said that to you it's pretty much standard. We can argue over semantics, but to me that's more or less the same thing as saying it's universal.

And I've worked for several corporations and I've definitely seen it happen. However, as The Diablo mentioned, it's simply another form of favoritism. The good old boy network is still alive and well.

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CREAM,

What prompted this question? Did your boss ask for a blow job or something?

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It's not just sleeping with the boss though. Much more common is a kind of flirty relationship. It doesn't even have to be overt. Lots of women are skillful at creating just enough sexual tension to get what they want without going over the line, and they use it to their best advantage constantly.

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While clearly people do sleep their way to the top, the OP's post does come off as having an awfully retarded view of women.

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El D,

Yes, I know some people sleep around to advance their careers. My comment isn't about that.

I was referring specifically to why the OP questioned whether the women in his office did it. His ONLY reason to suspect them was that they were hot. Nothing else:

"There are some pretty nice looking mid 20s hotties as well as a few hot MILFS in senior staff, lower management, and upper management positions. I can't help but wonder if any of them engaged in some 'extracurricular activities' outside the office at some point to help their career."

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Blarg,

In most situations it is more advantageous to someone's career to be someone who goes out with the boss and pick up chicks to nail rather than be someone who the boss nails.

Either of those, of course, are often far more advantageous than simply displaying stellar performance at the job.

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This thread is the only good reason I can see to actually go into Corporate Management.

Having said that, it's a doozy.

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EM,

Perhaps because attractive women are the ones who are most likely to have slept around to advance their career? And also because he doesn't care about sex w/ the ugly women or guys.

Also, you did not include this comment: "I guess my gut feeling is that it's rare"

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I was referring specifically to why the OP questioned whether the women in his office did it. His ONLY reason to suspect them was that they were hot. Nothing else:

"There are some pretty nice looking mid 20s hotties as well as a few hot MILFS in senior staff, lower management, and upper management positions. I can't help but wonder if any of them engaged in some 'extracurricular activities' outside the office at some point to help their career."

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This statement sounded more like wishful thinking/fantasizing than accusatory to me.

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There are some other reasons why people who are successfull tend to be attractive.

First attractive people get more opportunities whether or not they purposely use their sexuality.

Second, many people are attractive because they put a lot of work and effort into keeping in shape, grooming, and dressing nice. These same people tend to be achievement oriented and willing to work hard. The women in upper management tend to be hard working acheivement oriented people who take good care of themselves.