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bettingman00 11-25-2007 01:41 PM

The 16s on PokerStars
 
Tell me how the play is from the 6s? Is it just the same players on a lot of tables?.And also what are you beating this game at(roi)

And anything eles you can tell me

Thanks

vers 11-25-2007 01:44 PM

Re: The 16s on PokerStars
 
Way too many regulars.

15 ROI, but not a massive sample.

jetlag99 11-25-2007 02:23 PM

Re: The 16s on PokerStars
 
Yes, alot of regulars multitabling but lower rake (6,67% vs 8,33%). Try it out. ROI 10-12% is good.

SteveM 11-25-2007 03:01 PM

Re: The 16s on PokerStars
 
Yeah, the low rake attracts a lot of grinding regs. You can't avoid them completely, but there are always lots of tables running, so if I see too many regs setting up sets, I just wait a few minutes. I've done about 1000 w/ ROI of 12-13% which is lower ROI but better in terms of $/hr than I was making at the $6.50s. Oh - and there are still plenty of awful players - you just might have to fight the other sharks for their flesh. GL.

sippin_criss 11-25-2007 03:08 PM

Re: The 16s on PokerStars
 
lots of regs but a lot of them are also not that great considering they're playing 16's, myself included. just like moving up in any other level in any other form of poker, it gets a little more difficult as you move up.

SteveM 11-25-2007 03:15 PM

Re: The 16s on PokerStars
 
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lots of regs but a lot of them are also not that great considering they're playing 16's, myself included. just like moving up in any other level in any other form of poker, it gets a little more difficult as you move up.

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I agree completely (and MY self included, too). The $16s are a little tougher, but assuming you are a winner at the $6.50s, I don't think you'll find the $16s THAT much harder, so your $/hr will probably increase if you move up and can handle the change in stakes psychologically. Maybe add in 1 table at a time while you continue to do the $6.50s?

P.S. Sippin_criss, you've put in a TON of time at the $16s (and congrats on your results)- any plans to move up?

sippin_criss 11-25-2007 03:24 PM

Re: The 16s on PokerStars
 
I did move up to the $27s last year, then I switched to cash and lived in busto-land for quite some time... now I'll consider moving up if I can get good and also get out of busto-land.

bettingman00 11-25-2007 03:43 PM

Re: The 16s on PokerStars
 
Thanks for all your info. what kind of bankroll do i need to 9 table the 16s?

ps this site rocks

CheeseMoney 11-25-2007 04:24 PM

Re: The 16s on PokerStars
 
Whatever you want. I'm a pussy so I always like to have enough for 100 buyins at the next level (eg, 2700 at the 16s). No way a winning player ever needs this, or really even 100 at this level, but it was a psychological thing. Realistically 50 should be plenty at this level. My first trip up though I went up a grand, then quickly blew it all, and I had to drop down and grew some sort of complex.

Also, this has been addressed many times already, so IBL.

jetlag99 11-25-2007 05:02 PM

Re: The 16s on PokerStars
 
I say 100 buy-ins too if multitabling 10+. Variance in 9-handed SNG can be a monster.

The Venetian 11-25-2007 06:24 PM

Re: The 16s on PokerStars
 
There really aren't that many regulars. What you'll see is a number of people opening up several tables at once, but it's not the same people night in, night out. I had a sample of about 8K $16's over the past few months, never played anyone over 250 times and still averaged three completely new opponents per SNG at the end. FWIW, it's pretty much the same at the $27's.


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