WTF spot with ak @ flop
 

Villain in this hand is a huge fish. 55/0 very passive.


Party Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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MP: $542.70
CO: $525.20
BTN: $570.90
SB: $440.10
BB: $113.92
Hero (UTG): $1,164.78

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, MP calls $16, 3 folds, BB calls $12

Flop: ($50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $8</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $526.70 and is All-In</font>, BB folds

Re: WTF spot with ak @ flop
 

Against this guy I would fold

Re: WTF spot with ak @ flop
 

very passive fish 4bets allin for 120BB, fold 1 pair. sucks though.

Re: WTF spot with ak @ flop
 

call all day
flushdraw 95%

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call all day
flushdraw 95%

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i guess it was one of the other 5% then where villain has kto [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Re: WTF spot with ak @ flop
 

Before I read the result, my initial reaction was to call since flush draw on board and MAINLY BECAUSE DONKEYS RARELY play a big hand that fast (though I guess he might do that with 2 pair ... which is kind of an unlikely holding in this spot even for him)

Re: WTF spot with ak @ flop
 

your initial raise sucks

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your initial raise sucks

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Not at all if OP insta call the reraise all in.

Re: WTF spot with ak @ flop
 

raise the donk bet to 40

Re: WTF spot with ak @ flop
 

If you have never seen him do it before fold.

Flop raise sucks bad btw.

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your initial raise sucks

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Not at all if OP insta call the reraise all in.

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perhaps he was indicating the initial raise is too [censored] small

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very passive fish 4bets allin for 120BB, fold 1 pair. sucks though.

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Can people stop saying this is a 4bet? ITS A 3BET BLARG

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Flop raise sucks bad btw.

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you mean the size or the raise?

How can flopraise be bad?

Re: WTF spot with ak @ flop
 

Raise flop to more than 40. Donker has 100 left, just make it like 50 and get it in on any turn. He may not find a fold with like 98 or so, and will probably felt a flushdraw regardless.

After you get 3b on flop I dunno. His overshove is so [censored] weird. Dunno your sample on MPs stats, I guess he could have a set or slowplayed aces but I think he would usually 3b smaller. I usually call and feel dumb when he pozzes me with a set.

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Just saying he is passive, doesn't give enough information. What kind of passive plays does he make? Does he always call with single pair OOP? How does he play draws? Just call, instead of raising?

Anyway, in vacuum it's tough to say. He might have the same hand with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. KQ with hearts is not possible since we have the K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. So, it's either a flush draw, set with a small chance of him having AA, AK, KQ kind of hands. I guess he has set here most of the time.

If you had raised good amount on the flop, like others mentioned, it would be easier to look at his decision depending on how he responds.

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Think about this linux:

If you are a 55/0 drooler, you've been seeing half the flops, and you finally hit your biggest hand of the night with 22 on this flop. Then you just shove for 7-8x the pot?

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Think about this linux:

If you are a 55/0 drooler, you've been seeing half the flops, and you finally hit your biggest hand of the night with 22 on this flop. Then you just shove for 7-8x the pot?

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how can you say this?
this is prob exactly what id expect them to do, i think his range is prob 88 22 k8 k2 AA, playing at 55/0 obv shows he has no clue.
id fold pretty quick as uv put so little in the pot, just not the right odds.