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MatteyA28 11-21-2007 12:40 PM

25NL- Preflop with QQ
 
Villain joined table 5 hands ago so no reads. Has not been acting like a maniac.

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

MP: $30.85
CO: $16.80
Hero (BTN): $26.75
SB: $28.45
BB: $10.10
UTG: $10.15

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls $0.25, MP folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $0.75</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $7</font>, Hero?

Nemesis69 11-21-2007 12:56 PM

Re: 25NL- Preflop with QQ
 
Fold until you get a better read. This is KK, AA or AK at best.

sincityalpha 11-21-2007 01:05 PM

Re: 25NL- Preflop with QQ
 
with only $9.80 left, the implied odds do not justify to even try to see the flop...

Nemesis69 11-21-2007 01:07 PM

Re: 25NL- Preflop with QQ
 
Ofc forget to mention that we can't play for setvalue [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Quester 11-21-2007 01:08 PM

Re: 25NL- Preflop with QQ
 
I disagree with folding. Your 3-bet puts you past the commitment threshold, as you've already put in almost 15% of the effective stacks. Push and enjoy some high variance.

MrWooster 11-21-2007 01:10 PM

Re: 25NL- Preflop with QQ
 
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I disagree with folding. Your 3-bet puts you past the commitment threshold, as you've already put in almost 15% of the effective stacks. Push and enjoy some high variance.

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OP has not even invested 10% of his stack, and should fold here readless.

Quester 11-21-2007 01:20 PM

Re: 25NL- Preflop with QQ
 
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OP has not even invested 10% of his stack, and should fold here readless.

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This is really nitty, IMO. We have 15% of the effective stacks in already, and Hero is probably a coinflip:
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

359,583,840 games 0.060 secs 5,993,064,000 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.366% 45.79% 01.58% 164644764 5675268.00 { QQ }
Hand 1: 52.634% 51.06% 01.58% 183588540 5675268.00 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }


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hockeyf 11-21-2007 01:54 PM

Re: 25NL- Preflop with QQ
 
All you can eat!

seano34 11-21-2007 01:56 PM

Re: 25NL- Preflop with QQ
 
I fold this readless. Seems at 25NL re-raises clean out most all but AA/KK/AK unless you have a specific read otherwise

Dr_Doctr 11-21-2007 01:58 PM

Re: 25NL- Preflop with QQ
 
Shove - just because it's likely from his bet sizing and the fact he's short that he isn't solid (+ the fact that he's short full stop). But I don't particularly like doing it. It's probably marginal against an unknown. Folding and making a note while you get a read wouldn't be terrible.

intheflatfield 11-21-2007 02:18 PM

Re: 25NL- Preflop with QQ
 
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Shove - just because it's likely from his bet sizing and the fact he's short that he isn't solid (+ the fact that he's short full stop). But I don't particularly like doing it. It's probably marginal against an unknown. Folding and making a note while you get a read wouldn't be terrible.


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CO is never ever folding to a push here, and even if he is weakish its prob AQ weak. IMO if CO has JJ TT or the like he is pushing the 3 bet not betting half his stack.


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