AP hand 3/6 hand
 

I guess this can go in kind of with the AP regualars thread below... but anyways

I in the BB with JJ Villian in this hand is nutlaw who I have as a 45/22 after 3k hands

Nutlaw is in 1st position and flat calls, Folds around to BUttonm who flat calls, sb calls, I raise, everyone calls

FLop is Q 10 7

check, Hero-bet, Nut calls, fold, fold

turn is another Q

I bet, Nut raises me, I call

river is a 5

I check/call

Now this is a standard call down for me.... I do this in all similar situations... not just against lagtards like nutlaw. I've logged right at 60k hands at 3/6 and I'm in the green barely. (.16bb/100) I think but I've lost around 1800 in the past 5k hands which is pretty sick so my confidence is shot. I'm starting to feel like I'm not playing well... just wondering if this play with pairs is standard

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Completely standard, I almost get excited when he raises the turn. Though probably not excited enough to 3-bet.

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Well played. I never fold here against this guy. I never fold this against any guy actually.

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nh

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Do we ever think of betting the river here to avoid the FSDR or do we assume any pair is betting anyway and any air ist calling but may bluff?

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I think but I've lost around 1800 in the past 5k hands


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standard for ABS

hand is played fine.

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I check the turn here to induce a bluff. The T or 7 are probably betting anyway since we didn't 3bet the turn he probably thinks he's good.

EDIT: as I think about it more, the 7 may check behind here...using the turn raise for a free SD play. I still prefer a check, but a bet wouldn't be terrible, would it? Of course a raise would be brutal because I suck and have a hard time finding a fold even though a river raise means I'm likely smoked.

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What is your nickname at AP?

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nh sir. hang in there.

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I check the turn here to induce a bluff.

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AP games are awfully spewy, and I see some villians 3 bet the turn c/r with a T here. If I were smart or good, I think that would mean fold. I think b/c if the play for the turn, but lately I've been FSDR a lot on AP and I'm trying to find was to fight it. I'm not sure in situations like this win a b/c,c/c line is best apposed to a b/c, b,f/ or b/c, b/c.

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Of course a raise would be brutal because I suck and have a hard time finding a fold even though a river raise means I'm likely smoked

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Unless the villian has any clue and hand can read because you never have a Q and he thinks he get get us to fold 99, Tx, or JJ.

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NH well played.

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Do we ever think of betting the river here to avoid the FSDR or do we assume any pair is betting anyway and any air ist calling but may bluff?

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It's a free showdown raise usually, but after making it no one can ever fold. I'd bet the river quickly call a raise.

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It's a free showdown raise usually, but after making it no one can ever fold. I'd bet the river quickly call a raise.

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this is how i've been playing it a lot latly on switch "quickly" to "begrudingly"

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What is your nickname at AP?

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honestly I'd rather not give it out

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Do we ever think of betting the river here to avoid the FSDR or do we assume any pair is betting anyway and any air ist calling but may bluff?

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Interesting I actually thought about against this particular player but I've been running so awful I didn't want to have to get put to a decision. If I do bet that river against him I would definitely make the call although it would be one of those crying calls.... Nut is definitely capable of raising that flop in hopes for a cheaper showdown though

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Which is exactly why I brought it up. All I play is AP 3-6 and 5-T and those LAg monkeys keep FSDR me and its making me cranky. I think there is a good chance he checks behind a 7 , bad ten, or some other mis played PP here. I think if we check the river a Q or River bet from villian are far from a given

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Which is exactly why I brought it up. All I play is AP 3-6 and 5-T and those LAg monkeys keep FSDR me and its making me cranky. I think there is a good chance he checks behind a 7 , bad ten, or some other mis played PP here. I think if we check the river a Q or River bet from villian are far from a given

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After thinking about it further I think your exactly right.... I have a different circumstance for you now. Your playing against a tighter opponent, thinking player, you donk the river he insta raises, can you give it up? or do you pay off

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assuming he called the turn and the river was a complete brick? Depends on what thinking opponent means, because if I'm UTG with QK, QJ, or QT I'm not waiting until the river to raise, I'm popping the turn, so a river raise never means Q when the pot is HU from me. I think I'm snap calling because I'm much better than 6:1 to having the best hand and I expect to see KT, JT, or AT.