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bestcellar 03-07-2006 04:21 PM

Weird thing about two Stars players...
 
Okay, so I'm deep in the $22R and noticed two guys named Vitesse2 and Vitesse3 playing this tourney together (not at the same table). Same exact avatar, both from German cities.

That's not inconspicuous or anything....

mattmcegg 03-07-2006 04:22 PM

Re: Weird thing about two Stars players...
 
I'd take a screen shot and email it to support.

suzzer99 03-07-2006 04:23 PM

Re: Weird thing about two Stars players...
 
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I'd take a screen shot and email it to support.

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Or just email them if you can't get a screenshot. Please report back with what they say.

gdsdiscgolfer 03-07-2006 04:23 PM

Re: Weird thing about two Stars players...
 
Definitely hit up customer support.
I can't wait tolaugh if two cheaters are that conspicuous. It's probably just "two friends"

mattmcegg 03-07-2006 04:24 PM

Re: Weird thing about two Stars players...
 
screen shot = "Print Screen" button above "Insert". Open paint and hit ctrl+v.

pokerlaw 03-07-2006 04:29 PM

Re: Weird thing about two Stars players...
 
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screen shot = "Print Screen" button above "Insert". Open paint and hit ctrl+v.

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learn something new everyday...thanks!

IWEARGOGGLES 03-07-2006 04:31 PM

Re: Weird thing about two Stars players...
 
You made it deep? Eff you [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

(I am LukeFromB13)

mattmcegg 03-07-2006 04:35 PM

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learn something new everyday...thanks!

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Anytime!

bestcellar 03-07-2006 04:44 PM

Re: Weird thing about two Stars players...
 
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You made it deep? Eff you [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

(I am LukeFromB13)

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I just got badbeated four out of the money

Ansky 03-07-2006 04:46 PM

Re: Weird thing about two Stars players...
 
A while ago there were multiple players named "ukrainexx" (xx being random numbers) that were all in the same 50 rebuy. Stars said that it was a bunch of people in the safe internet cafe or something like that.

mattmcegg 03-07-2006 04:48 PM

Re: Weird thing about two Stars players...
 
stars is shady. i've always wondered about H@llengoll...

bestcellar 03-07-2006 04:54 PM

Re: Weird thing about two Stars players...
 
emailed support.

lastsamurai 03-07-2006 05:04 PM

Re: Weird thing about two Stars players...
 
the same thing happen to me in a SNG about 1 year ago...

two guys from the same city were playing in a SNG and they both had asian girls on their avatar.

Hello,
>
> Thank you for your patience while we completed our
> review of the accounts
> of 'pok*laiguy' and 'jad*408'. We found evidence of
> tournament collusion in
> the form of 'soft playing.' These players appear to
> be friends, but they
> did not seem willing to eliminate each other from
> the tournaments they play
> together. Many players are not aware that 'soft
> playing' is against our
> tournament rules, however you should play as hard
> against a good friend as
> you would a total stranger. We found no evidence of
> other forms of
> collusion such as chip dumping, or sharing card
> information.
>
> Due to this 'soft playing' they have been
> disqualified from a tournament on
> our site, and we have now made them aware of our
> tournament rules. They
> will no longer be permitted to play on our real
> money tables together. They
> have also been warned that any future infractions of
> our tournament rules
> will result in the permanent closure of their
> accounts.
>
> Thank you for again for bringing these players to
> our attention, and doing
> your part to protect the integrity of our games.
> Please let us know anytime
> you have questions or concerns.
>
> Regards,
>
> Joanne
> PokerStars Support Team

i took 4th in this tournament but didnt get my $ back...oh well.

bestcellar 03-07-2006 05:36 PM

Re: Weird thing about two Stars players...
 
Hello Matt Walters,

Thank you for your patience regarding your report. We have completed an
investigation on 'vitesse2' and 'vitesse3'.

One of the first areas examined is whether the players have a definable
relationship. As confirmed by their chat, the players know one another
and
have a teacher/student relationship. This does not, however, translate
into frequently playing together. For example, one of them has played
over
150 Sit-and-Go's in our cardroom, but only 4 were with the other
player.
And their shared ring game history is even less substantial.

Nevertheless, a review of hand histories comprises the bulk of these
investigations. Please understand that having access to everyone's hole
cards gives us an enormous advantage over colluders. We are able to
judge
the intent of every action, especially when put into context of
previous
actions.

They did not build pots for each other, make suspicious folds, or
unjustifiably squeeze players in between. There were no indications of
collusion or any other rules violations. Also note that none of their
Sit-
and-Go events contain any money finishes. This is highly unlikely for
teammates, as they will work together to keep one another alive in the
event.

Due to the lack of playing evidence, I cannot take action against these
players. They do not frequently play together and, more importantly,
their
relationship does not adversely affect their decision making during the
few times they do play together. There is no need to place restrictions
on
their accounts.

Thanks again for your patience and help. Please contact support if you
have any more questions or require further assistance.

Regards,

Larry
PokerStars Support Team

suzzer99 03-07-2006 05:40 PM

Re: Weird thing about two Stars players...
 
Makes sense. You'd have to be beyond braindead to try to collude with those usernames.

Melchiades 03-07-2006 05:50 PM

Re: Weird thing about two Stars players...
 
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Makes sense. You'd have to be beyond braindead to try to collude with those usernames.

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Don't underestimate how stupid people can be.

JeanieJ 03-07-2006 05:51 PM

Re: Weird thing about two Stars players...
 
Well that's good news. They aren't cheating. At least now you know and don't have to worry about it.

NinjaMan 03-07-2006 07:28 PM

Re: Weird thing about two Stars players...
 
I saw something like this in the last month. It was two friends at the same final table. Somethingboy and WSOPHero or whatever. One guy joked about having the Doyle hand and folded. Apparently they got punished a little, though it seems silly to me to do so.

Slow Play Ray 03-07-2006 07:34 PM

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one of them has played over 150 Sit-and-Go's in our cardroom

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Also note that none of their Sit-and-Go events contain any money finishes.

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wow, these guys suck.

Foucault 03-07-2006 07:46 PM

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one of them has played over 150 Sit-and-Go's in our cardroom

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Also note that none of their Sit-and-Go events contain any money finishes.

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wow, these guys suck.

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Possibly, I hope, Support meant that they didn't money in any of the ones they played together. It would be very, very difficult to play 150 SnG's and never money.

Slow Play Ray 03-07-2006 07:48 PM

Re: Weird thing about two Stars players...
 
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Possibly, I hope, Support meant that they didn't money in any of the ones they played together. It would be very, very difficult to play 150 SnG's and never money.

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ooohh yeah - that makes a lot more sense. duh.

adanthar 03-07-2006 07:52 PM

Re: Weird thing about two Stars players...
 
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Possibly, I hope, Support meant that they didn't money in any of the ones they played together. It would be very, very difficult to play 150 SnG's and never money.

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ooohh yeah - that makes a lot more sense. duh.

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If they had actually went 150 SNG's while colluding and failed to money with either account, I would pay extra to play with them.

snelgrave 03-07-2006 11:44 PM

Re: Weird thing about two Stars players...
 
I wonder what the odds are to play 150 SnGs and not make the money?


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