AA rag rag vs. pot repot
 

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($49.25)
BB ($27.10)
UTG ($52.45)
MP ($57.60)
Hero ($72.45)
Button ($127.75)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $5.50, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $26.25</font>, Hero...?

I figure button might go all in if I just call here, so is trying to isolate the best play here?

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Push

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Push

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minraise to get BB along

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If there was ever a time to lay down aces I think this might be it (very strong evidence that UTG also has Aces plus the button raise and the BB col-call make me think that there's very little chance this flop is going to be less than 3 people). Not that it's terrible to get all-in with Aces in a 3-way pot, but when one of the other parties has AA as well I think BB has odds to call with any decent hand.

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No way. This spot calls for a counterintuitive play IMO. Just call, your hand looks like a good rundown or KKxx, hope that button recognises that and tries to push to isolate. If you flatcall and button calls behind instashove over UTG when he leads most flops.

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Wazz I feel like the way you want to play it is allowing the button to play way too optimally. You're only going to have a PSB left after the flop and with UTG's money in there his odds are going to be astronomical.

Also, this could be a spot where BB tags along if he's closing the action. And also, you may not be +EV if yuo get it all in preflop against button if UTG has aces, which he is screaming that he has.

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Calling is the worst move here IMO. our aces are not good enough to play a 3-way pot with only a PSB left.

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folding is the worst move here IMO. push

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Ac 7c Ah 4h 105190 21.04 242529 48.51 152281 30.46 0.363
As Kc 8c Ad 44101 8.82 304424 60.88 151475 30.30 0.240
8s 6d 5d 7h 198428 39.69 300766 60.15 806 0.16 0.398

pokenum -mc 500000 -o ah 4h ac 7c - ad kc 8c as
Omaha Hi: 500000 sampled boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ac 7c Ah 4h 155677 31.14 63515 12.70 280808 56.16 0.592
As Kc 8c Ad 63515 12.70 155677 31.14 280808 56.16 0.408

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whta i was trying to get at is arent we better off playing Hu with dead money in the pot than having a 3way allin+ at leats if one other person has AAxx.



some other scenarios:

pokenum -mc 500000 -o ah 4h 7c ac - kd kc th tc - 5d 6d 7s 8s
Omaha Hi: 500000 sampled boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ac 7c Ah 4h 195413 39.08 303641 60.73 946 0.19 0.392
Kc Tc Kd Th 122538 24.51 377462 75.49 0 0.00 0.245
8s 7s 6d 5d 181103 36.22 317951 63.59 946 0.19 0.363


pokenum -mc 500000 -o ah 4h 7c ac - 9d jc 8h tc - 5d 6d 7s 8s
Omaha Hi: 500000 sampled boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ac 7c Ah 4h 208611 41.72 290718 58.14 671 0.13 0.418
Jc Tc 9d 8h 123819 24.76 375575 75.11 606 0.12 0.248
8s 7s 6d 5d 166293 33.26 332430 66.49 1277 0.26 0.334


bah i donw know lolol

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Take any and all advice I give with a big grain of salt because I've been playing omaha for literally about a day. But my gut instinct would be that there's a good amount of dead money in the pot, and you'd like to show this hand down heads up if possible, especially since UTG has basically turned his hand over. With that in mind, pushing here has the best chance of getting another person or two out of the pot.

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push&gt;fold&gt;call

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um hero is single suited.

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clear push for me,
if you just call button has pot odds and position,
he is right to call with any sensible hand and you have a very poor hand for playing flops.

if you push you are always +EV and cant be outplayed.
even if utg has a better AA the dead money or pot odds make it +EV.

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if you push you are always +EV

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I disagree

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Thanks for all the replies, I ended up iso-pushing, which BTN snap re-pushed and everyone called, here were the hands they had:

BTN: Jh Ts Qd Kd
UTG: 5d 6c 3c 4s
BB: Tc 9s 6h 7s

Board: 7c 4c 5h Th Qc

Needed a 4,7, or heart to take a big chunk out of that pot, and I lost to runner runner for a 80 BB side pot [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]