Confused on turn after flop c/r.
 

villain is 18/12 over 800 hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($396.05)
Button ($113.40)
SB ($292.90)
BB ($352.60)
Hero ($100)
MP ($100)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, MP calls $4, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $3.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($13) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $9</font>, SB calls $9, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $36</font>, MP folds, SB calls $27.

Turn: ($94) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $60</font>, Hero...

Final Pot: $94

Re: Confused on turn after flop c/r.
 

why arent you betting the flop?

As played K doesnt change things enough of the time to not stack off here. just put it in.

Re: Confused on turn after flop c/r.
 

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why arent you betting the flop?

As played K doesnt change things enough of the time to not stack off here. just put it in.

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MP bets every flop when it's checked to him.

Re: Confused on turn after flop c/r.
 

man thats a though one, id bet the flop for sure, but now its a really though spot, he's 18/12, and he's betting the turn when an overcard comes, only thing you beat here is a flush draw, if he was looser i would maybe shove over depending on the player, but its closer to a fold then it is to a shove imo.

Re: Confused on turn after flop c/r.
 

Ok I know 2p2 loooooooooooooooooooves to say everything is a fold... but seriously, do you really like comitting 40BB and folding to this donk bet????

If SB was slowplaying a set I think we either see a shove on flop (then you can make an argument for folding) OR a continued slowplay on the K turn...

sometimes this is Kxhh, but Im not folding with this much in and no reason to think a K is in his hand.

Re: Confused on turn after flop c/r.
 

33/77/99-JJ + a few draws including a couple KXhh yeah?

Re: Confused on turn after flop c/r.
 

we have like &lt; 2/3 PSB left behind ahead like 30% of the time here would make this disasterous

Re: Confused on turn after flop c/r.
 

Sigh, shove, and try to avoid goofy lines in the future.

Re: Confused on turn after flop c/r.
 

i like your line and i think you should shove

Re: Confused on turn after flop c/r.
 

Thanks for the responses. I ended up timing out and folding, but right after I did I immediately regretted it. Blah o well.

Re: Confused on turn after flop c/r.
 

you seriously think he's betting something you beat here....he's 18/12...we have no Af factors, nothing, he called a reraise and you think your ahead? And how do you know he shoves with a set on the flop, we dont even know his AF....having 1/3th of your stack doesnt commit you to anything.

Re: Confused on turn after flop c/r.
 

villain bet exactly your stack on the turn? like he typed in exactly what you have left... I would fold.

Re: Confused on turn after flop c/r.
 

i am a payoff machine, but i just can't find a hand that we can beat that pushes that turn.

Re: Confused on turn after flop c/r.
 

Weird. Nothing really makes sense here. I would think a set just gets it in on the flop. Doesn't really make sense to slowplay the flop and then open shove a scary turn with a set. He could have kx hearts but again the turn shove is kind of weird given that he can't realistically expect to get called by worse and he doesn't really need to protect his hand since he has the draw. I guess a flush draw deciding to use the king as a scare card makes the most sense but your flop line is so strong it is hard to imagine him bluffing here.

I vote call out of confusion and bc a semibluff is what makes the most sense to me.