$13, JJ would you re-raise?
 

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UTG (t1075)
UTG+1 (t2475)
CO (t1125)
Hero (t1340)
SB (t1465)
BB (t1520)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to t120</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, Hero calls t120, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

Flop: (t285) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">UTG+1 bets t480</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>

Re: $13, JJ would you re-raise?
 

A read on the player would be handy. It's a really weird bet size. If he's any good he probably wouldn't be playing a random ten like that preflop, and I can't honestly see why he'd play overcards like that either postflop, as he's pricing himself in to call a shove and a bet of about 150 would achieve the same. If he's a donk I jam flop very quickly, which with that bet size I'd guess he is.

I ask about reads mainly because the last time I was in a similar situation I forgot about them, and bet-called shove into AA

Re: $13, JJ would you re-raise?
 

He was a LAG player re-raising many pots when feeling weakness

Re: $13, JJ would you re-raise?
 

I would call here.
If he's LAG you are ahead of his range here and there is already money in the pot.
He could very well have AT or A9 or AK - AJ and really wanting you to fold.
Also he could have any pair lower than queens, because he would likely not overbet the flop.
And of course because it's a $13 and he is LAG he could be doing this with just two highcards.
I put him on the range 55-QQ, AK-A7, KQ, QJ.
Can anybody else check if this range is accurate?

Re: $13, JJ would you re-raise?
 

I like shoving the flop as well. The range is loose and the bet on the flop is really strange. He could be over-excited about a big pair, but then he probably would have done this preflop. He probably has some fishy ten or something like nines here (although an overpair is obviously possible.)

Re: $13, JJ would you re-raise?
 

I'm shoving it in here on the flop, can't fold an overpair here to a laggy player whose bet size looks pretty weak/vulnerable hand to me. I wouldn't be surprised to see like AT or 77 here.

Also if he is laggy and opening a lot of pots I am re-raising preflop too.

Re: $13, JJ would you re-raise?
 

Sorry I meant I push (can't edit anymore).

Re: $13, JJ would you re-raise?
 

Without the read that he was regularly overbetting the pot I would get it in here.

Re: $13, JJ would you re-raise?
 

you really need to shove here, the 6 mans at every level play pretty laggy and at the 13s theyre just bad lags. QQ+ is in his range but really not that likely considering the gross overbet, id be happy about shoving.

also, hes rarely folding now and youre usually ahead...great spot for hero.

Re: $13, JJ would you re-raise?
 

looks like a standard bad lag overplaying his AT A9 88 type hand. i would get it in pretty happily.

Re: $13, JJ would you re-raise?
 

Would pushing pf be a terrible play?

Re: $13, JJ would you re-raise?
 

I'm not crazy about a push pre. If I was BB or something and had to play the hand OOP then I wouldn't mind shoving pre as much. I think a raise to 350 is fine since we have position.

Re: $13, JJ would you re-raise?
 

nope shoving pre is fine...rerai pre to 380 and getting in on most flops is fine too.

Re: $13, JJ would you re-raise?
 

Like the 1st response said, the read is everything. If his PFR is below 7%, I look at a fold, 9%-11% a call, above that insta-shove.

Assuming I called, I'll shove my op preflop, cause if I put him at raising less than 7%, I've already folded.

The bet size seems a bit much considering the worst he has to protect against is an oe draw, so feels like at best AT.

Having said all that reading your follow up post, I go with shoving on the flop. What happenend?

Re: $13, JJ would you re-raise?
 

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Would pushing pf be a terrible play?

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while 3 bet shoving pre is certainly going to be +EV, there are usually better ways to extract value.

Re: $13, JJ would you re-raise?
 

shove.

Re: $13, JJ would you re-raise?
 

I wasn't too sure about my read.. so I just folded.

Pretty weak I guess..