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Tessai 11-08-2007 07:36 PM

100NL; AA vs light reraiser preflop
 
light reraiser means in the last 30 minutes i saw him reraising proflop a couple of times, no other special read at this point


No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $4</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $14.75</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $24.5</font>, UTG folds, CO calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($54.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $30</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises all-in $74.5</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($203.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $203.5)


River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($203.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $203.5)


Results:
Final pot: $203.5

JesseW316 11-08-2007 07:38 PM

Re: 100NL; AA vs light reraiser preflop
 
Don't minraise pre.

Re-re to about 50, and your money is going in on all flops.

K䲰䮥n 11-08-2007 07:39 PM

Re: 100NL; AA vs light reraiser preflop
 
raise pot sized PF you doofus.

I think folding overpairs might be a leak in 4bet pots, not sure. I'll ask Antonius.

orange 11-08-2007 07:41 PM

Re: 100NL; AA vs light reraiser preflop
 
standard.

K䲰䮥n 11-08-2007 08:03 PM

Re: 100NL; AA vs light reraiser preflop
 
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standard.

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why is PF standard? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

SheepSuit 11-08-2007 08:05 PM

Re: 100NL; AA vs light reraiser preflop
 
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standard.

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why is PF standard? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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it's standard for me, is there a topic on 4bet sizing somewhere?

stickdude 11-08-2007 08:09 PM

Re: 100NL; AA vs light reraiser preflop
 
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Don't minraise pre.

Re-re to about 50, and your money is going in on all flops.

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What is an optimal 4-bet size, anyway? Anthing bigger than a min-4 bet will leave you with less than 1 PSB on the flop, so you're shoving any flop. Given that, why not just shove preflop? What hands would call a 50BB 4-bet preflop but fold to a 100BB 4-bet?

Djeorge 11-08-2007 08:11 PM

Re: 100NL; AA vs light reraiser preflop
 
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standard.

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why is PF standard? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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it's standard for me, is there a topic on 4bet sizing somewhere?

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I think the general concensus is more than the minimum

stickdude 11-08-2007 08:14 PM

Re: 100NL; AA vs light reraiser preflop
 
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standard.

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why is PF standard? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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it's standard for me, is there a topic on 4bet sizing somewhere?

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There is now. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Didn't see this post when I posted mine...

early325 11-08-2007 08:20 PM

Re: 100NL; AA vs light reraiser preflop
 
definitely need to 4-bet more..something between $36 and $44 sounds cute.

spivey 11-08-2007 08:25 PM

Re: 100NL; AA vs light reraiser preflop
 
I don't see why the 4 betting size matters *too* much, pretty much all the money is going in on the flop anyways.

el_grande 11-08-2007 08:58 PM

Re: 100NL; AA vs light reraiser preflop
 
seems good but what were the stacks?

1gotth3nuts 11-08-2007 09:22 PM

Re: 100NL; AA vs light reraiser preflop
 
yeah what are the PF stacks... i raise to like 32 (4bet) and get it in on the flop unless flop is like JQK or somethin

markuisis 11-08-2007 09:27 PM

Re: 100NL; AA vs light reraiser preflop
 
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Don't minraise pre.

Re-re to about 50, and your money is going in on all flops.

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the minraise pre is perfect (maybe a little more but w/e) against this type of opponent especially if hes been 3betting u a lot and it also allows u to 4bet bluff cheaper in the future.

early325 11-08-2007 10:08 PM

Re: 100NL; AA vs light reraiser preflop
 
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I don't see why the 4 betting size matters *too* much, pretty much all the money is going in on the flop anyways.

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because you're letting him play correctly by calling with pocket pairs giving him such insane odds..you want your opponents to make mistakes.

early325 11-08-2007 10:09 PM

Re: 100NL; AA vs light reraiser preflop
 
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Don't minraise pre.

Re-re to about 50, and your money is going in on all flops.

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the minraise pre is perfect (maybe a little more but w/e) against this type of opponent especially if hes been 3betting u a lot and it also allows u to 4bet bluff cheaper in the future.

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can't really see any hand folding to this 4bet, so i would never recommend 4bet bluffing this tiny..

spivey 11-08-2007 10:36 PM

Re: 100NL; AA vs light reraiser preflop
 
His odds really aren't great given how little he has behind.

I'd 4 bet larger, but I don't think this is big enough a deal to be harping on as much as it has been in this thread.


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