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Percussion 03-06-2006 04:53 PM

1/2 QQ too many people!!
 
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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, Hero ??

tehox 03-06-2006 04:55 PM

Re: 1/2 QQ too many people!!
 
Fold.

PietM 03-06-2006 04:56 PM

Re: 1/2 QQ too many people!!
 
Very tough spot. A raise to isolate makes no sense here, apart from bloating the pot. I think you can safely asume someone has an Ace. Maybe call the bet on the flop, to see if you can catch a miracle card? But I think you're pretty much screwed here...

bottomset 03-06-2006 04:59 PM

Re: 1/2 QQ too many people!!
 
I'd fold here, I would have called if I had the Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Str8Fish 03-06-2006 05:01 PM

Re: 1/2 QQ too many people!!
 
calls on flop and calls turn and then hits Q on river and bets! Someone could be betting out a flush draw. There's only 3 more aces left in this entire deck... the question is, does someone there have one?

JerBear77 03-06-2006 05:07 PM

Re: 1/2 QQ too many people!!
 
looking at one "CLEAN" out in this action, and if you hit it, you still can be redrawn.

nh, but a fold here is necessary.

djhoneybear 03-06-2006 05:11 PM

Re: 1/2 QQ too many people!!
 
I think this is a pretty easy fold. Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] would swing this to a call but more than likely I fold the turn.

car ramrod 03-06-2006 05:15 PM

Re: 1/2 QQ too many people!!
 
give it up.

TheGrinch 03-06-2006 05:21 PM

Re: 1/2 QQ too many people!!
 
:grunch:

I usually fold pocket pairs when there is an overcard on the flop when there is over 4 players. When it's 2-3 it's more of a judgement call and 1 player has got to show you an ace. Here you have 5 villains, fold.

zimplitka 03-06-2006 05:33 PM

Re: 1/2 QQ too many people!!
 
Folds. WAY too many people for your hand to be good and even if you spike a 3rd Q on the turn, it might give someone else a straight or a flush.

Spy021 03-06-2006 07:46 PM

Re: 1/2 QQ too many people!!
 
I would lay this hand down on the flop. None of your outs make you a cinch to win. Any of the remaining (2) Queens give someone a possible Broadway and the Qh makes a possible flush and even Royal, which I know is highly unlikely. Even if you go for a raise, your not folding anyone on the draw or holding an ace so there isn't a way to protect your hand.

Jaran 03-06-2006 07:47 PM

Re: 1/2 QQ too many people!!
 
Not everyone is on a flushdraw. I fold.

-Jaran

Gregatron 03-06-2006 07:51 PM

Re: 1/2 QQ too many people!!
 
I hate it when this happens, but you have a bet and 3 calls. You are behind. Furthermore, Your Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] out is obviously dirty. Fold.

Gib 03-06-2006 08:37 PM

Re: 1/2 QQ too many people!!
 
GRUNCH

It's time to dump that hand,
Has this table always been this loose? if so nice table.

lucksack 03-07-2006 05:24 AM

Re: 1/2 QQ too many people!!
 
I would definitely fold, someone probably has an ace.

OXIO 03-07-2006 06:04 AM

Re: 1/2 QQ too many people!!
 
fold it.

stuartharris 03-07-2006 07:46 AM

Re: 1/2 QQ too many people!!
 
This is an easy fold for me. Even if both queens are clean, I have 2.5 outs here. Four people aren't bluffing--at least one has an ace.


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