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HustlerLA 11-07-2007 07:22 AM

Poker stove Quiz
 
Okay, this is sorta BBV
I was playing a live 5/5NL game and utg raises to 30 and I
3bet in MP with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] to 125, BB shoves for about 185 total and utg shoves for 250 more. I call and cover.

I am up against AA and KK and
the flop comes 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I found some of the stove numbers kinda interesting.

Here is the quiz part. and obviously its not open book(dont stove it)

Question1) AA had more equity preflop than I have postflop. T/F?

Question2) Rank the hands in order of highest to lowest preflop equity?
A) KK;AA;AK
B) AA;AK;KK
C) AA;KK;AA
D) AK;AA;KK

Please dont post pokerstove results, if you think its a lame post, feel free to berate. But I am interested in how many people get both right. Just give your first response that comes intuitively. I will post the results afterwards.

HustlerLA 11-07-2007 09:01 AM

Re: Poker stove Quiz
 
dont be afraid to fail, cmon, somebody.....

ValarMorghulis 11-07-2007 09:25 AM

Re: Poker stove Quiz
 
1) False. Guestimate AA preflop equity ~82%, AK postflop equity 95%-ish

2) Close. I'd say B is approximately the same as C (9%-ish). I'll go B. (because it's more unexpected)

freekie 11-07-2007 10:34 AM

Re: Poker stove Quiz
 
1 false

2 misread AA > KK > AK

fees 11-07-2007 10:43 AM

Re: Poker stove Quiz
 
LOL is this the biggest level ever?

Christophers 11-07-2007 10:47 AM

Re: Poker stove Quiz
 
1. Definitely false

2. AA > AK > KK

The72o 11-07-2007 10:58 AM

Re: Poker stove Quiz
 
1.false
2.AA>AK>KK
AA is owning also 1 out for set
AK straight outs?
KK 1 out for set

also suits would matter.

Nick Royale 11-07-2007 11:02 AM

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LOL is this the biggest level ever?

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creative 11-07-2007 11:05 AM

Re: Poker stove Quiz
 
i think my mom can do this quiz

d2themfi 11-07-2007 01:18 PM

Re: Poker stove Quiz
 
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LOL is this the biggest level ever?

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fees 11-07-2007 01:30 PM

Re: Poker stove Quiz
 
ALL U HAD WAS AN OVERPAIR AND I HAD A POCKET PAIR WTF MORAN

ikestoys 11-07-2007 01:32 PM

Re: Poker stove Quiz
 
whee quizzes.

#1... FALSE
#2... AA>KK>AK its not close

nextgenneo 11-07-2007 01:34 PM

Re: Poker stove Quiz
 
1. False
2. AA > AKs > KK

costanza_g 11-07-2007 02:12 PM

Re: Poker stove Quiz
 
1) True

2) AK:KK:AA

DonkBluffer 11-07-2007 02:13 PM

Re: Poker stove Quiz
 
[censored] I pokerstoved 2. Hint: don't just think of KK vs AK, but remember KK has to beat AA too.

nextgenneo 11-07-2007 02:19 PM

Re: Poker stove Quiz
 
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[censored] I pokerstoved 2. Hint: don't just think of KK vs AK, but remember KK has to beat AA too.

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks for ruining it for everyone

HustlerLA 11-07-2007 02:19 PM

Re: Poker stove Quiz
 
[ QUOTE ]
LOL is this the biggest level ever?

[/ QUOTE ]

[ QUOTE ]
whee quizzes.

#1... FALSE
#2... AA>KK>AK its not close

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Its not a level, Question #1 was obvious, question 2 was the one I found interesting. In fact it is really close between KK and AKs, AKs having slightly more equity preflop. Not the worlds most interesting topic, but I wanted to see some responses. I suspect that those who thought it was a level may have been surprised by the answer.
Board:

Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied

Hand 0: 78.945% 78.47% 00.48% 9680076 59244.50 { AA }

Hand 1: 10.174% 09.96% 00.21% 1228791 26372.00 { KK }

Hand 2: 10.880% 10.33% 00.55% 1274706 67596.50 { AhKh }




8,127 games 0.005 secs 1,625,400 games/sec

Board: Th 5h 2h

Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied

Hand 0: 01.993% 01.99% 00.00% 162 0.00 { AA }

Hand 1: 00.997% 01.00% 00.00% 81 0.00 { KK }

Hand 2: 97.010% 97.01% 00.00% 7884 0.00 { AhKh }



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12,336,786 games 0.032 secs 385,524,562 games/sec

This hand was fun too, everybody has to suck out once in a while.

tozzy 11-07-2007 02:21 PM

Re: Poker stove Quiz
 
[censored] GROUNDBREAKING. thanks so much.

traz 11-07-2007 02:32 PM

Re: Poker stove Quiz
 
apparently all of the AKs draws add up to just over 1 out in this situation, that's about all I took from this

KingGordy 11-07-2007 02:34 PM

Re: Poker stove Quiz
 
Grunching, hopefully I don't make myself look stupid

1)F
2)B

ikestoys 11-07-2007 02:37 PM

Re: Poker stove Quiz
 
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[censored] I pokerstoved 2. Hint: don't just think of KK vs AK, but remember KK has to beat AA too.

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i remembered... AA>KK>AK

its not close.

i'll take bets.

wheelz 11-07-2007 02:48 PM

Re: Poker stove Quiz
 
$100 bucks says you're wrong.

ikestoys 11-07-2007 02:55 PM

Re: Poker stove Quiz
 
AK != AKs

ship to ikestoys on ps, ftp or abso.

thks in advance

ext results appended to pokerstove.txt

197,388,576 games 0.210 secs 939,945,600 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 83.485% 82.98% 00.51% 163786428 1002504.00 { AA }
Hand 1: 10.176% 09.95% 00.22% 19644984 440940.00 { KK }
Hand 2: 06.340% 05.76% 00.58% 11372976 1140744.00 { AKs, AKo }

wheelz 11-07-2007 02:59 PM

Re: Poker stove Quiz
 
yeah i realized you were missing that.. A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] = AKs

traz 11-07-2007 03:00 PM

Re: Poker stove Quiz
 
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yeah i realized you were missing that.. A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] = AKs

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orly

ikestoys 11-07-2007 03:06 PM

Re: Poker stove Quiz
 
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yeah i realized you were missing that.. A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] = AKs

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i restated in my own post to be disingenuous.

rand 11-07-2007 03:06 PM

Re: Poker stove Quiz
 
1 is false
2 is B

fishfather 11-07-2007 03:35 PM

Re: Poker stove Quiz
 
I pokerstoved question 2 and the correct answer is not abc or d unless you are nit-picking.


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