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ConsciousOne 11-03-2007 05:32 PM

5/10 hand at Bellagio
 
I was playing 5/10 at the bellagio when this hand came up.
I start the hand with about 770$ villian has me covered.

I am in mid position with one or two limpers before me, i get J 7 of hearts and raise to 50. This isnt a play i normally make but i have a fairly tight image so i decide to do it. Someone about 2 seats after me calls, then villian calls and one limper call, so its a 4 way pot.
The flop is J 10 7 with two spades.
first guy checks i lead for 120, next guy folds villian ask me how i have, i tell her i have 600 left, then she bets 600, the next guy folds and its back to me.

The villian is a regular female player , i have never seen her make a move nearly this is aggressive. For her to make that bet i feel she has to know that she can beat (AA,KK,QQ) which is potenially in my range. The only hand i can beat that can beat that range is 10,7 and i feel thats the least likely hand in her range for her to have. I decide a possible range for her is (10 10, 10 J, 8 9,10 7). Again i feel the 10 7 is the most unlikely considering the position she called in preflop and figure 10,10 or 10,J is most probable. I finnaly fold and she mucks.
Was this probably the right fold?

spino1i 11-03-2007 05:35 PM

Re: 5/10 hand at Bellagio
 
Hmm its read depedant but I prolly lay it down.

Move this to MSNL.

AAismyfriend 11-03-2007 05:46 PM

Re: 5/10 hand at Bellagio
 
Making these image plays in a live game where you're gonna have 3-4 callers preflop when you have less than 100BBs is lighting money on fire. As played, I think you can fold, but I'd felt this fairly quickly vs most.

terp 11-03-2007 05:58 PM

Re: 5/10 hand at Bellagio
 
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Making these image plays in a live game where you're gonna have 3-4 callers preflop when you have less than 100BBs is lighting money on fire. As played, I think you can fold, but I'd felt this fairly quickly vs most.

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Albert Moulton 11-03-2007 07:54 PM

Re: 5/10 hand at Bellagio
 
Your usual fold preflop would have been good here.

Your flop play, including the fold, was good. I doubt she has just 1-pair, like AJ or KJ, unless it is AsJs or KsJs. So, you are probably slightly ahead or way behind. A fold is good.

ConsciousOne 11-03-2007 08:39 PM

Re: 5/10 hand at Bellagio
 
To elaborate on my opening raise, The game was not playing very loose at the moment so it was very probable that i would get at most 1 caller, which could also likely be someone i had position on

Wayneo 11-03-2007 08:44 PM

Re: 5/10 hand at Bellagio
 
She doesn't have KQ, or AQ/AK/K9s here?

homeboy604 11-03-2007 09:48 PM

Re: 5/10 hand at Bellagio
 
i would pretty much never fold this.

tuckercat 11-03-2007 10:39 PM

Re: 5/10 hand at Bellagio
 
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Making these image plays in a live game where you're gonna have 3-4 callers preflop when you have less than 100BBs is lighting money on fire. As played, I think you can fold, but I'd felt this fairly quickly vs most.

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jkkkk 11-03-2007 10:48 PM

Re: 5/10 hand at Bellagio
 
wtf @ you nits, snap call that [censored]

rand 11-03-2007 10:50 PM

Re: 5/10 hand at Bellagio
 
fold in a hearbeat given my experience with live women players
JT is like 99% of her range here

AceCR9 11-03-2007 10:52 PM

Re: 5/10 hand at Bellagio
 
1. rebuy pre flop
2. fold pre flop, limp, or raise to like 70-90(with 100bb stack)
2. don't fold flop w/ a short stack, and 2 pair. seriously!

soah 11-04-2007 02:25 AM

Re: 5/10 hand at Bellagio
 
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Making these image plays in a live game where you're gonna have 3-4 callers preflop when you have less than 100BBs is lighting money on fire. As played, I think you can fold, but I'd felt this fairly quickly vs most.

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bellagio 5/10 fish are pot odds monkeys. it takes one calling station moron or someone with a playable hand to make a coldcall to get the others to tag along. if there's no one to start the chain of calls, you have a good chance to take it down preflop. if someone cold calls, then all the limpers come along. I've seen people fold hands like AQs last to act because of no pot odds against a standard raise.

so you've gotta be really aware of the table dynamics to minimize the chance that a chain gets started. if you do things right you've got a good chance to take it down pf or isolate the one guy at the table who plays any two cards to a raise as opposed to most of the dudes who only play any two cards for a limp

onedollars 11-04-2007 02:56 PM

Re: 5/10 hand at Bellagio
 
This is 89 half the time, and the other half is 77, 1010, JJ, J10. Nitty old women don't raise this shallow with combo draws. Nice fold, but you are really lighting money on fire with those "image raises"

Wardfish 11-05-2007 11:30 AM

Re: 5/10 hand at Bellagio
 
I dont understand why you want to bet small on a draw-heavy flop multi-way, then fold to the raise that you have invited. Why not bet $200 and get the rest in ASAP? That way you can start the review process sooner and question why you decided to raise with junk from mid-position.

This looks like FPS to me.


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