25NL AJs blind battle
 

I have villain at 60/40 after 10 hands which is about as long as I've been at the table. Can I call his little 4-bet in position here? Also what's your post-flop plan?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($30.45)
SB ($25)
Hero ($25.25)
UTG ($20.75)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $3.5</font>, Hero?

Re: 25NL AJs blind battle
 

Don't call it a blindbattle if your new at the table and hvnt fought for them before [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

His mini reraise is quite spunky and is either a AA,KK or a wide range pp's AT+ and some spewy things. Since you got position with a semidecent hand that probably can compete his with his range i would call since it's 1,5 for a 7$ pot. So i would call and reevaluate on the flop. Then it hard to say depends on villains action and the flop.

Re: 25NL AJs blind battle
 

I would take a flop against someone with those stats but I think BvB is my biggest leak right now so meh.

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i'll fold. 10 hands is nothing, wait till you have atleast 75+ before you judge a player by there stats. im just folding this, but if after several hands his stats are similar, i'd call, or reraise if hes doing it alot

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your getting great odds to take a flop IP (4-1), id have to hit it kinda hard to call/raise a decent size bet on the flop.

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not only that, this is not a hand you want to play with against someone who 4b you, it'd be better to play a hand that would be well hidden if you hit. the only hand you can really hope to hit here is a flush, other hands in villain's 4b range probably dominate you.

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you guys really fold to a less than 2x your 3 bet here I mean I know we are not in great shape agianst villans range but you fold this IP getting 4-1?

Re: 25NL AJs blind battle
 

I disagree with the advice about folding this. Yes, SB 4-bet us and he could have a monster... or air. But AJs heads up isnt bad, getting about 3-1 with position. Call this 4-bet and evaluate the flop.

You fold here and I guarantee him and the rest of the table will run you over.

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you guys really fold to a less than 2x your 3 bet here I mean I know we are not in great shape agianst villans range but you fold this IP getting 4-1?

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Actually I usually fold this because of the RIO. The deck would have to smack us in the face to feel good about playing a big pot here.

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You fold here and I guarantee him and the rest of the table will run you over.

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This is 25NL, nobody is going to run you over. And if the rest of the table sees us as weak tight, that's very good for us, DUCY?

Re: 25NL AJs blind battle
 

say villain does this with JJ (even though most villains won't even 4b JJ), JJ-AA have us crushed, AK and AQ also crush us, say we hit our A, JJ-KK is not paying us off, say we hit our J, we are more than likely still beat...I think those factors make this a good fold, despite the good immediate odds we may be getting.

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why do you want to display a weak tight image?
id rather have the table worried about me that knowing what my hand is cause my lines are super weak/tight
being seen as weak tight doesnt really help you get paid off on your good hands.

just sitting back and trying to snap off bluffs just isnt profitable enough for me cause we dont have great/good hands that often

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why do you want to display a weak tight image?
id rather have the table worried about me that knowing what my hand is cause my lines are super weak/tight
being seen as weak tight doesnt really help you get paid off on your good hands.

just sitting back and trying to snap off bluffs just isnt profitable enough for me cause we dont have great/good hands that often

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Its only 10 hands so no real read on him
Nobody cares how you play at 25NL .
For me his play is suspicious but I would call.The problem id how we play the hand when we flop a J or an A and he leads out ...

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why do you want to display a weak tight image?
id rather have the table worried about me that knowing what my hand is cause my lines are super weak/tight
being seen as weak tight doesnt really help you get paid off on your good hands.

just sitting back and trying to snap off bluffs just isnt profitable enough for me cause we dont have great/good hands that often

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It's never a bad thing when other players have a perception of you that's not true. Although in this particular case, it isn't really relevant anyway, as the vast majority of NL25 players aren't paying attention.

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so if noboday cares how you play then why do you care about your image?

im not folding here, not because I dont want to appear weak tight but because of the great odds i am getting and I can play post flop so im not goig to stack off if an ace flops

I think its kinda a gross mistatement that knowbody notices how you play @ 25NL esp post legislation.

Re: 25NL AJs blind battle
 

uh, folding to a 4bet one time doesn't make you weak tight. there are other, smarter spots to get aggressive. fine, say you call, what do you do on an A or J high flop?

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folding is "correct" as I see it.

but calling is only marginally bad because you are in position.

I probably call most of the time for that reason

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jesus you are getting 4 to 1 and have positing how can you possibly fold. if you are afraid of stacking off on an A or J high flop then a) dont 3 bet AJs and b) go play limit. call and stack him when flop comes Xd xd A

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jesus you are getting 4 to 1 and have positing how can you possibly fold. if you are afraid of stacking off on an A or J high flop then a) dont 3 bet AJs and b) go play limit. call and stack him when flop comes Xd xd A

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thank you

Re: 25NL AJs blind battle
 

call
although his hand looks extremely strong (2 minraises), we are getting good odds.

Re: 25NL AJs blind battle
 

His hand does look really strong but this is BvB and people do really weird things in these situations. I think it was two days ago I had a 16/12 or something like that triple barrel bluff into me from the SB. BvB just makes people act like they are on drugs for some reason, so afraid that they got their blind stolen. I think a call here isnt bad and if villain does this a few more times, I am shoving here, so ha to everyone else saying fold.

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I called, flopped a flush draw, went all in. He had KK. Strange hand.

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I called, flopped a flush draw, went all in. He had KK. Strange hand.

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NH. thats perfect drawing to 12 outs. thank him for letting you in with his min-bet