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magicalmarty 10-31-2007 08:02 AM

Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
Ansky already up 20k

fees 10-31-2007 08:04 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
lol gg 120k ansky=/

magicalmarty 10-31-2007 08:06 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
Full Tilt Poker Game #4022705866: Table Vasari (heads up) - $200/$400 - No Limit Hold'em - 8:04:38 ET - 2007/10/31
Seat 1: Ansky451 ($49,092)
Seat 2: David Benyamine ($170,128)
Ansky451 posts the small blind of $200
David Benyamine posts the big blind of $400
DERAJ21 (Observer): please please with a cherry on top?
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
wildcardhendrex (Observer): HEY DERA ID LOVE TO CRACK YOUR HEAD YOU TURD
Ansky451 raises to $1,200
Xuavelon (Observer): lol
DERAJ21 (Observer): carl ur dunb
David Benyamine has 15 seconds left to act
DERAJ21 (Observer): shut up0
David Benyamine raises to $5,200
martin_202 (Observer): ROFL RAILBIRDS
Ansky451 calls $4,000
Carl Jenilian (Observer): wild hes a idiot just ignore him
*** FLOP *** [Qd Qh 8d]
David Benyamine bets $8,800
DERAJ21 (Observer): can u say something better then that wildcard shjfdkjfd
Ansky451 calls $8,800
*** TURN *** [Qd Qh 8d] [5s]
Xuavelon (Observer): just stfu and watch david winning money [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
DERAJ21 (Observer): dumb fu*k
David Benyamine checks
DERAJ21 (Observer): u shut up
Ansky451 bets $12,000
thermal239 (Observer): david sucks monkey buttocks
DERAJ21 (Observer): what wanna fight?
David Benyamine has 15 seconds left to act
David Benyamine raises to $51,200
Ansky451 calls $23,092, and is all in
David Benyamine shows [Js Jd]
Ansky451 shows [Jh Qc]
Uncalled bet of $16,108 returned to David Benyamine
*** RIVER *** [Qd Qh 8d 5s] [5c]
David Benyamine shows two pair, Queens and Jacks
Ansky451 shows a full house, Queens full of Fives
Ansky451 wins the pot ($98,183.50) with a full house, Queens full of Fives
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $98,184 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Qd Qh 8d 5s 5c]
Seat 1: Ansky451 (small blind) showed [Jh Qc] and won ($98,183.50) with a full house, Queens full of Fives
Seat 2: David Benyamine (big blind) showed [Js Jd] and lost with two pair, Queens and Jacks

fees 10-31-2007 08:06 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
cts said it best, he never folds

Full Tilt Poker Game #4022705866: Table Vasari (heads up) - $200/$400 - No Limit Hold'em - 8:04:38 ET - 2007/10/31
Seat 1: Ansky451 ($49,092)
Seat 2: David Benyamine ($170,128)
Ansky451 posts the small blind of $200
David Benyamine posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Ansky451 raises to $1,200
David Benyamine has 15 seconds left to act
David Benyamine raises to $5,200
Ansky451 calls $4,000
*** FLOP *** [Qd Qh 8d]
David Benyamine bets $8,800
Ansky451 calls $8,800
*** TURN *** [Qd Qh 8d] [5s]
David Benyamine checks
Ansky451 bets $12,000
David Benyamine has 15 seconds left to act
David Benyamine raises to $51,200
Ansky451 calls $23,092, and is all in
David Benyamine shows [Js Jd]
Ansky451 shows [Jh Qc]
Uncalled bet of $16,108 returned to David Benyamine
*** RIVER *** [Qd Qh 8d 5s] [5c]
David Benyamine shows two pair, Queens and Jacks
Ansky451 shows a full house, Queens full of Fives
Ansky451 wins the pot ($98,183.50) with a full house, Queens full of Fives
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $98,184 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Qd Qh 8d 5s 5c]
Seat 1: Ansky451 (small blind) showed [Jh Qc] and won ($98,183.50) with a full house, Queens full of Fives
Seat 2: David Benyamine (big blind) showed [Js Jd] and lost with two pair, Queens and Jacks

magicalmarty 10-31-2007 08:07 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
that was short Ansky vs JohhnyCash12 now

ASPoker8 10-31-2007 08:11 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
Ansky is the man

EWS87 10-31-2007 08:36 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
Full Tilt Poker Game #4022805474: Table Pimento (heads up) - $200/$400 - No Limit Hold'em - 8:33:32 ET - 2007/10/31
Seat 1: johhnycash12 ($68,369)
Seat 2: Ansky451 ($31,619.50)
Ansky451 posts the small blind of $200
johhnycash12 posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Ansky451 raises to $1,200
johhnycash12 calls $800
*** FLOP *** [4d 6c 4c]
johhnycash12 checks
Ansky451 bets $2,000
johhnycash12 calls $2,000
*** TURN *** [4d 6c 4c] [Jh]
johhnycash12 checks
Ansky451 checks
*** RIVER *** [4d 6c 4c Jh] [4h]
johhnycash12 has 15 seconds left to act
johhnycash12 bets $5,200
Ansky451 has 15 seconds left to act
Ansky451 has requested TIME
Ansky451 calls $5,200
*** SHOW DOWN ***
johhnycash12 shows [2d 2s] a full house, Fours full of Twos
Ansky451 mucks
johhnycash12 wins the pot ($16,799.50) with a full house, Fours full of Twos
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $16,800 | Rake $0.50
Board: [4d 6c 4c Jh 4h]
Seat 1: johhnycash12 (big blind) collected ($16,799.50)
Seat 2: Ansky451 (small blind) mucked


Ansky451: yo
Ansky451: answer me
Ansky451: are u telling me that this is the same person
Ansky451: that i played at 25/50
johhnycash12: im not answering anything
johhnycash12: play if you want

EWS87 10-31-2007 08:38 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
Ansky451: is this urindanger or something
Ansky451: cause he said the exact same thing to me
Ansky451: on one of his many names
Ansky451: if thats the case its pretty unreal scummy, and i hope u get all the karma u
deserve, if it isn't, and its you johnny, then gg u play better at 2/4 than 25/50

emil3000 10-31-2007 08:38 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
So scummy.

muxplust 10-31-2007 08:39 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
did ansky beat benyamine?

EWS87 10-31-2007 08:40 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
its pretty scummy to drag urindangers name through the mud there though with no proof

emil3000 10-31-2007 08:43 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
It was fairly obvious it's someone else on johhnycash's account, whether it was urindanger or not doesn't really make a difference.

muxplust 10-31-2007 08:43 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
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its pretty scummy to drag urindangers name through the mud there though with no proof

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agreed

FiSheYe 10-31-2007 08:43 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
Why is David Benyamine reraising OOP pf 4,33x ? This looks like a huge leak with these stacks.. Ansky can you elaborate on this ?

Ansky 10-31-2007 08:44 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
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its pretty scummy to drag urindangers name through the mud there though with no proof

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one time a random name sat w/ me at 25/50, like 3 months ago, and I started playing him until CTS PMd me that it was one of the brothers, he didnt know which. I asked him who he was and he gave that exact same response. I have no idea if it was or if it wasn't him, but I wasn't going to risk 40k to find out, and if it wasn't him why wouldnt he just say so?

muxplust 10-31-2007 08:44 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
who won the ansky benyamine match ... .at work update plz

Ansky 10-31-2007 08:45 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
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its pretty scummy to drag urindangers name through the mud there though with no proof

[/ QUOTE ]

agreed

[/ QUOTE ]

Why is it scummy to ask if someone who is known for doing such a thing, is doing such a thing?

If OJ Simpsons new girl was found dead somewhere, who do you think the first suspect would be?

muxplust 10-31-2007 08:46 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
its pretty scummy to drag urindangers name through the mud there though with no proof

[/ QUOTE ]

agreed

[/ QUOTE ]

Why is it scummy to ask if someone who is known for doing such a thing, is doing such a thing?

If OJ Simpsons new girl was found dead somewhere, who do you think the first suspect would be?

[/ QUOTE ]

not Ron Goldman, he is dead.

Ansky 10-31-2007 08:47 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
Also, magically Johnnycash sitting w/ urin but not playing any hands, no less than 3 mins after I suggest a link.

eightballa 10-31-2007 08:48 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
Well urindanger sat down with johnnycash13 so I guess that immediately and absolutely absolves him of the charges.

edit- I'm being sarcastic.

Ansky 10-31-2007 08:48 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
[ QUOTE ]
who won the ansky benyamine match ... .at work update plz

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I took about a buy in off of him, then lost about a buy in to "johnnycash"

Ansky 10-31-2007 08:49 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
[ QUOTE ]
Well urindanger sat down with johnnycash13 so I guess that immediately and absolutely absolves him of the charges.

[/ QUOTE ]

on the contrary imo...

EWS87 10-31-2007 08:50 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
haha wow def him

EWS87 10-31-2007 08:51 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
[ QUOTE ]
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Well urindanger sat down with johnnycash13 so I guess that immediately and absolutely absolves him of the charges.

[/ QUOTE ]

on the contrary imo...

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yea its basically the same principle as when the AP guy dumped all those chips to g-p...what a dumb move on urindangers part like noone would figure it out

muxplust 10-31-2007 08:51 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
make johnny try one of urin's mittens....if the glove doesnt fit, you must aquit

Ansky 10-31-2007 08:52 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
Also according to samh who I am talking to now... he said that urin was playing before i sat w/ benyamine, and immed after i sat he logged off urin, and cash was on the waiting list.

hey, if it was you, [censored] you.

DLizzle 10-31-2007 08:57 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
[ QUOTE ]
its pretty scummy to drag urindangers name through the mud there though with no proof

[/ QUOTE ]

its well known that Urindanger plays on other accounts all the time, so how is it dragging his name through the mud? Also Ansky didn't post it on a forum or anything, he said it in chat.

bonds25 10-31-2007 09:00 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
Thats [censored] up bro, smart move leaving either way.

Edit: spelling

Ansky 10-31-2007 09:06 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
[ QUOTE ]
Thats [censored] up bro, smart moving leaving either way.

[/ QUOTE ]

when i played him at 25/50 i thought he had a ton of ridic obvious leaks, one of which was that i never saw him make thin vbets.

Then he bet J9 on 6779K for value and I paid off w/ 33 cause I thought it was the other guy.

Then he bet w/ 22 on 6444J, which made me REALLY suspicious cause cash just really would never have done that.

Then he magically is sitting w/ urin but not playing a hand right after i suggest his name? He said he wanted to play 200/400 to gamble? [censored] him and [censored] all the name changing.

I changed my name once at 5/10 and i ended up sitting out vs anyone who sat vs me who had already quit me on ansky cause I would have felt too bad. I even felt bad playing 6 max vs the regs. I am sorry I did that and I don't ever want to play on a different name again. It feels reallllllly sick to know u may have been deceived. Either way I don't have proof so what can I do anyway but speculate.

bottomset 10-31-2007 09:10 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
fulltilt and stars need to switch to the Party setup where you can change your name every 6months

give the option to everyone, not just those that are willing to break site rules

bonds25 10-31-2007 09:13 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
Yea, I dont know dude, when in doubt I would just leave, those high stakes seem pretty [censored] sketchy with name changes considering the player pool is so small.

Ansky 10-31-2007 09:14 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
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Yea, I dont know dude, when in doubt I would just leave, those high stakes seem pretty [censored] sketchy with name changes considering the player pool is so small.

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I agree... if it were just a random name I'd have insta sat out.

But the fact was that I had played him at 25/50 just 2 days ago or so and spanked him, so I thought maybe he was back for vengence or something.

magicalmarty 10-31-2007 09:22 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
sounds fishy but we'll probably never know for sure

Ansky 10-31-2007 09:47 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
FTP Advisor: You can change the color and design of the playing card
backs by clicking on "Options" in the upper right and then selecting
"Change Deck."
Ansky451: cmon
Urindanger: wtup
Ansky451: u gonna tell me u arent johnnycash?
Urindanger: ?
Urindanger: do people think i am ?
Ansky451: well
Ansky451: this is what happens to me
Ansky451: you are on ftp
Ansky451: i sit w/ benyamine at 200/400
Ansky451: u log off
Ansky451: johnny gets on the list
Ansky451: benya quits me
Ansky451: johnny sits
Urindanger: did u beat benyamine?
Ansky451: plays v different from how i played him at 25/50
Ansky451: makes valuebets he never owuld have made
Ansky451: i ask him if its u
Ansky451: he doesnt answer 1 way or the other
Ansky451: right aftre that
Urindanger: haha
Ansky451: he sits w/ you
Ansky451: and sits out
Ansky451: seems shady as hell to me
Urindanger: he called me tight
AnT55 (Observer): HA
Urindanger: u woudn't play a tightwad like me either
Ansky451: huh
AnT55 (Observer): HA
Ansky451: u are the last person on the face of the earth
Ansky451: i would play
AnT55 (Observer): DO IT UP
Urindanger: i'm not that good, if i played u and u were decent, i'd quit
you
Urindanger: i just play fish
nestea8 (Observer): lol
Ansky451: stop patronizing me
Ansky451: w/e
Ansky451: its only speculation
Ansky451: so i cant say anything for certain
Ansky451: but i know waht i think about this whole [censored]
Urindanger: i'm not patronzing
Urindanger: i think ur overreacting
Ansky451: its ez for u to not realize that it blows to use an AKA
Ansky451: because
Ansky451: there is no way for someone to say
Ansky451: "well what if someone did it to you"
Urindanger: so ur mad because you think i'm johnny cash
Ansky451: cause
AnT55 (Observer): HA
Ansky451: ud want his action anyway
Ansky451 (Observer): im mad because i think he is you
Ansky451: but thats semantics
Urindanger: i feel like
Urindanger: its online poker
Urindanger: everyone has a chance to make a new SN if they want
AnT55 (Observer): PLAY THEM BOTH
Urindanger: you can't stop everyone from doing it
johhnycash12 (Observer): Ansky stop crying and play poker
Urindanger: so you might as well do it yourself
AnT55 (Observer): YEA JOHNNY
Urindanger: but i'm not johnny
nestea8 (Observer): johhny
nestea8 (Observer): hey
AnT55 (Observer): JOHNNY DANGER
s-anneni (Observer): whats SN?
nestea8 (Observer): where u from?
s-anneni (Observer): me?
Ansky451: ok
steve pug (Observer): ansky call
nestea8 (Observer): johhny
Ansky451: w/e
Urindanger: could you do me a favor tho
Ansky451: maybe?
Urindanger: can u run around telling everyone i AM johnny cash
Urindanger: that way, it'll trip people up

skier_5 10-31-2007 09:50 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
[ QUOTE ]
I changed my name once at 5/10 and i ended up sitting out vs anyone who sat vs me who had already quit me on ansky cause I would have felt too bad. I even felt bad playing 6 max vs the regs. I am sorry I did that and I don't ever want to play on a different name again. It feels reallllllly sick to know u may have been deceived. Either way I don't have proof so what can I do anyway but speculate.

[/ QUOTE ]

fwiw, when this happened ansky imed me the first time we sat together

Gildwulf 10-31-2007 10:00 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
[ QUOTE ]
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I changed my name once at 5/10 and i ended up sitting out vs anyone who sat vs me who had already quit me on ansky cause I would have felt too bad. I even felt bad playing 6 max vs the regs. I am sorry I did that and I don't ever want to play on a different name again. It feels reallllllly sick to know u may have been deceived. Either way I don't have proof so what can I do anyway but speculate.

[/ QUOTE ]

fwiw, when this happened ansky imed me the first time we sat together

[/ QUOTE ]

can someone explain to me how name-changing and sitting is unethical?

I understand playing under someone else's name is unethical because you have reason to believe you are playing someone else, but I don't really get why changing your name and playing someone is unethical.

Don't you keep the notes on the player even if they change the name or no?

cts 10-31-2007 10:02 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
Gild: bc Full Tilt does not allow you to change your name (ie you have to make a new account, player notes dont follow or anything) or to have multiple accounts. They have a fresh start while retaining their reads on you.

Orlando Salazar 10-31-2007 10:08 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
[ QUOTE ]
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who won the ansky benyamine match ... .at work update plz

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I took about a buy in off of him, then lost about a buy in to "johnnycash"

[/ QUOTE ]

u sir are a liar. DB finished up 3 BI on u.

Ansky 10-31-2007 10:12 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
who won the ansky benyamine match ... .at work update plz

[/ QUOTE ]

I took about a buy in off of him, then lost about a buy in to "johnnycash"

[/ QUOTE ]

u sir are a liar. DB finished up 3 BI on u.

[/ QUOTE ]

um. no, what the [censored] are you talking about?

mntbikr15 10-31-2007 10:16 AM

Re: Ansky vs. Benyamine 200/400 nl
 
Gild,

I think these people just MAKE a ton of accounts, not actually change the name. In this case I can see the arguement for unethical


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