Hows my line with AA
 

UTG is a real nit and not particularly good, I've seen him min 3bet KK pf and not raise with 99.

I didn't bet the turn because I doubt very much that he called the Cbet with AK so the only other hands I figure he called with on the flop are TT-AA. I didn't bet the turn becuase I can get value from hands like TT-QQ.

When the K came on the river and he checked to me I think I can narrow his range down to TT-QQ. What do you think to the value bet on the end?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $51.90
UTG: $63.30
Hero (MP): $64.55
CO: $60.90
BTN: $22.95
SB: $11.65

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $2</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, 4 folds, UTG calls $5

Flop: ($14.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $10</font>, UTG calls $10

Turn: ($34.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($34.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $17</font>, UTG........

Re: Hows my line with AA
 

bet turn !!!!

river is ok but fold to raise

Re: Hows my line with AA
 

I don't dislike your line but every time you check the turn you give him a free chance to make his set.

Re: Hows my line with AA
 

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bet turn !!!!

river is ok but fold to raise

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What do I get value from by betting the turn? IMO villain is folding TT-QQ a lot of the time and I doubt very much that he's calling my Cbet with AK.

Re: Hows my line with AA
 

I like your line for the reasons you mentioned. His range is likely confined to TT-QQ, betting the K will result in a fold very often. If I was villain I would probably put you on JJ, QQ, KK after the turn check. So this gives him a chance to look you up on the river. Giving him a free two out draw is not a big deal.

Re: Hows my line with AA
 

I think u played it fine, I think I would bet more like 21 on the river, given the reads. I would fold to a push, the 17 dollar bet seems very weak...

A real nit raising UTG, calling 3-bet and calling c-bet puts his range here to QQ,KK,AA. Maybe a set taken that u are 126BB deep. does he raise pp UTG? Does he play his sets tricky or straight forward (rr flop when hit)?

Re: Hows my line with AA
 

I don't see him checking the river with a K. So I like the bet, but I would bet less because you aint getting called often. But you played it like JJ-QQ (KK?) too by checking the turn. You should have bet the turn hoping for KQ,AK, KJ to come along - that was your chance to get more value from your hand.

Re: Hows my line with AA
 

Yes, I like betting the turn to see if he is going to call you or raise you here. Never give people free turns!

Re: Hows my line with AA
 

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bet the turn hoping for KQ,AK, KJ to come along

[/ QUOTE ] Besides AK, these hands are not in a nits UTG raising range, let alone his calling 3bet range. AK doesn't get beyond this flop most of time either.

Re: Hows my line with AA
 

Check on turn is bad.. I do this sometimes as well and it bites ya in the arse.

Tough call if he re-raises river given his image.

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Check on turn is bad.. I do this sometimes as well and it bites ya in the arse.

easy fold if he re-raises river given his image.

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FYP

just bet the turn if he is really nitty then he prob will fold the river if you check the turn anyway and why give him free cards?

Re: Hows my line with AA
 

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You should have bet the turn hoping for KQ,AK, KJ to come along - that was your chance to get more value from your hand.

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You think he's calling the CBet with any of these hands.......this is the player who limps pf with 99.

Re: Hows my line with AA
 

can this guy have a set here on the flop, or is that out of the question? if he has AK or Kx here he is not a nit, and the read is wrong....

Re: Hows my line with AA
 

I think the turn is clearly a small 1/3 pot bet. No big reason to protect your hand and he might stick around with a mid pair.

Re: Hows my line with AA
 

Villain called and showed QQ. IMO I still think that checking the turn was right as he'd have folded to a turn bet and would almost certainly have folded to a river bet. This way I was able to get the value bet in.

I probably should have bet a little more on the river and flop though.