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Nielsio 10-28-2007 11:39 AM

FT200 I don\'t think you has it so I\'m gonna bluff
 
Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $348.95
Hero (BTN): $200
SB: $207.25
BB: $200
UTG: $235.40

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $7</font>, Hero calls $7, 2 folds

Flop: ($17) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $17</font>, Hero calls $17

Turn: ($51) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $24</font>, Hero calls $24

River: ($99) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $92</font>


CO is 35/9/1.3/54 .

rberg 10-28-2007 11:52 AM

Re: FT200 I don\'t think you has it so I\'m gonna bluff
 
So this has to work half the time to break even....with his stats being the only read it's kinda marginal i think.
In general i feel raising the turn has more FE in these spots

KingofNits2 10-28-2007 11:56 AM

Re: FT200 I don\'t think you has it so I\'m gonna bluff
 
He has an ace here too much, and he wont fold an ace here too many times to make it profitable. Spewwy bluff, Also what do you want to achieve by this?

Also if you want to bluff, make it a 100 on the turn. If you think hes full of it, you can test him here and you got the right image for it.

RUDIKULOUS 10-28-2007 11:58 AM

Re: FT200 I don\'t think you has it so I\'m gonna bluff
 
In my experience they have like A6 here a lot.

Unknown Soldier 10-28-2007 12:00 PM

Re: FT200 I don\'t think you has it so I\'m gonna bluff
 
flop??

you don't need so much on the river. Not sure i like it because i don't know his donking range.

FishSticks 10-28-2007 12:29 PM

Re: FT200 I don\'t think you has it so I\'m gonna bluff
 
Do not like. Guy looks like a passive station. He'd prob even just c/c as good as AJ or whatever here. His turn bet sizing and general line look weak, but your readless and his stats suggest he's loose/passive so it seems like a bad idea to me.

1o BoY 10-28-2007 12:34 PM

Re: FT200 I don\'t think you has it so I\'m gonna bluff
 
he plans on c/c you imo.

Daddy Warbucks 10-28-2007 12:43 PM

Re: FT200 I don\'t think you has it so I\'m gonna bluff
 
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I don't think its so bad. This huge donk bet is never really a big hand, or even an ace, so its not a bad spot to float.

River bet is too large though. You can accomplish the same thing with smaller.

spivey 10-28-2007 12:53 PM

Re: FT200 I don\'t think you has it so I\'m gonna bluff
 
Not crazy about bluffing known stations. In fact, I have a piece of paper right in front of my computer that says that so I never forget.

Recliner 10-28-2007 02:10 PM

Re: FT200 I don\'t think you has it so I\'m gonna bluff
 
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he plans on c/c you imo.

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Suwalski 10-28-2007 02:21 PM

Re: FT200 I don\'t think you has it so I\'m gonna bluff
 
Ï would rather bluff flop or turn, since he knows that he will most likely be facing another bigbet on the next street, and by that gaining more FE.

Unknown Soldier 10-28-2007 03:03 PM

Re: FT200 I don\'t think you has it so I\'m gonna bluff
 
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flop??


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I don't think its so bad. This huge donk bet is never really a big hand, or even an ace, so its not a bad spot to float.

River bet is too large though. You can accomplish the same thing with smaller.

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they rarely give up donking in my experience, i'd much rather raise

theplux 10-28-2007 03:19 PM

Re: FT200 I don\'t think you has it so I\'m gonna bluff
 
raise turn is better. and your bet on the river considering your line sounds like a bluff.

Daddy Warbucks 10-28-2007 03:20 PM

Re: FT200 I don\'t think you has it so I\'m gonna bluff
 
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flop??


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I don't think its so bad. This huge donk bet is never really a big hand, or even an ace, so its not a bad spot to float.

River bet is too large though. You can accomplish the same thing with smaller.

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they rarely give up donking in my experience, i'd much rather raise

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Maybe this is how it is on FTP. Party they give up like 80% of the time on the turn.

Chaos_ult 10-28-2007 03:23 PM

Re: FT200 I don\'t think you has it so I\'m gonna bluff
 
don't like turn.

I usually just give it up now.

nath 10-28-2007 03:31 PM

Re: FT200 I don\'t think you has it so I\'m gonna bluff
 
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raise turn is better.

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Lucky 10-28-2007 03:36 PM

Re: FT200 I don\'t think you has it so I\'m gonna bluff
 
I don't like it. Assuming you're standard 20/16/3.5 or whatever, this guy pretty much going to call what you bet with his Ace.

hotbacon 10-28-2007 03:48 PM

Re: FT200 I don\'t think you has it so I\'m gonna bluff
 
real bad spot to bluff.
those stats and that turn bet = Ax and specifically AJ/AQ a ton, even AK too. and the river card couldn't be less scary

tubasteve 10-28-2007 03:51 PM

Re: FT200 I don\'t think you has it so I\'m gonna bluff
 
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don't like turn.

I usually just give it up now.

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hes double gutted

Chaos_ult 10-28-2007 03:53 PM

Re: FT200 I don\'t think you has it so I\'m gonna bluff
 
ahh touche, missed that.


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