Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

That was his first move but he never limped. Would u call or fold?

The Hero is i guess is me> donekir

ty

PokerStars Game #12885659344: Tournament #64650446, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2007/10/27 - 19:59:02 (ET)
Table '64650446 25' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: McShove (7210 in chips)
Seat 2: joachin68 (5635 in chips)
Seat 3: jopalmighty (3425 in chips)
Seat 4: Slugg7 (2415 in chips)
Seat 5: donekir (4090 in chips)
Seat 6: Deill (9015 in chips)
Seat 7: Siebentonner (2125 in chips)
Seat 8: DonLavio (12290 in chips)
Seat 9: francoguate (7565 in chips)
donekir: posts small blind 50
Deill: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to donekir [Ad Kd]
Siebentonner: folds
DonLavio: folds
francoguate: calls 100
McShove: folds
joachin68: folds
jopalmighty: folds
Slugg7: calls 100
donekir: raises 300 to 400
Deill: raises 8615 to 9015 and is all-in
francoguate: folds
Slugg7: folds
donekir: folds
Deill collected 1000 from pot
donekir said, "nh"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1000 | Rake 0
Seat 1: McShove folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: joachin68 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: jopalmighty folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Slugg7 (button) folded before Flop
Seat 5: donekir (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Deill (big blind) collected (1000)
Seat 7: Siebentonner folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: DonLavio folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: francoguate folded before Flop

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

your probably freerolling him tbh

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

call you have a flush draw

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

I've seen so much worse pushing there than AA or KK...You are almost always AT WORST a coinflip.

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

ppl usually make these big aipf overbets w jj qq and ak imo

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

I d fold in a 100$. Snap call in 50 and lower.

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

Calllll and be pretty happy about it imo

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

I would call in 1 sec regardless of buy-in. also, I prob make it 450-500 the first time around.

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

ty all the answer i think folding is ok here, i played tight and im quite sure that he put me on a pocket.

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

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ty all the answer i think folding is ok here, i played tight and im quite sure that he put me on a pocket.

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to recap:

1. You post a hand where you folded
2. All of the good players tell you that you should have called
3. You reply that the answer is "folding is ok" and that villain put you on a pocket pair



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Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

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to recap:

1. You post a hand where you folded
2. All of the good players tell you that you should have called
3. You reply that the answer is "folding is ok" and that villain put you on a pocket pair



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std?

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

why would i put my hole tournament life on a coin flip when theres at least 30% that im underdog

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

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why would i put my hole tournament life on a coin flip when theres at least 30% that im underdog

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keep folding AK in tournaments and see how many you win. in a cash game i could see a fold.

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

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why would i put my hole tournament life on a coin flip when theres at least 30% that im underdog

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because you're bad at poker and will never find a better spot

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

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why would i put my hole tournament life on a coin flip when theres at least 30% that im underdog

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you should clearly be playing $100 tournaments

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ty all the answer i think folding is ok here, i played tight and im quite sure that he put me on a pocket.

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How are you "quite sure" of this ?

If you're "quite sure" that villain put you on a PP shouldn't you also be "quite sure" that he has AK, AQ, even AJ ?

If villain has AA KK QQ, why would he throw it all in immediately ? Isn't there a better way for him to extract value from your lesser PP ?

If villain has a middle PP, why would he throw it all in on a wild ass guess that his PP is better than yours ?

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also, I prob make it 450-500 the first time around.

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yikes [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

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also, I prob make it 450-500 the first time around.

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yikes [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

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2 limpers. Raising to 500 in standard. Nothing particularly wrong with 400 though.

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

lol i insta call with little thought

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

the stack sizes make it seem like this is 100r in the rebuy period.

So have autocall clicked before it gets to you.

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

omg, is it the rebuy-period? lock thread if thats the case.

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

ShaunDeeb,
I thought that same thing as well.
In a 109fo it is closer.

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

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ShaunDeeb,
I thought that same thing as well.
In a 109fo it is closer.

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wait, what? if it is the rebuy-period but OP has no intention making a rebuy this is a super easy call. if he intends to make rebuys its a clear call as well. probably more clear in both cases than if it was a freeze-out.

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

i dont see how this is a fold in any tournament, let alone a freaking rebuy, lol.

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

I'm pretty sure this is a FO. The average stack size of 5500 is consistent with 3K starting chips after one hour. The time is almost 8PM, which would be consistent with the blinds levels of a tournament starting at 7PM, and there is a $100 FO at that time, but not a $100 rebuy.

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

Nonetheless its an easy call. This thread should be locked

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

in a 100fo it's an autocall as well unless it's a known player.

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

the games are still good!

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

fold

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

Dear All,

ill try to summaries the post and the hand again i just looked back the tourn stats at PokerOffice and ill try to explain that why did i fold that, i made the post bc i have never folded AK preflop when there were not two or three allin before me. It happened like once or twice around the bubble.

But now i was pretty sure that im making a good laydown. (not counting that i doubled up in the next hand with a floped nut flush).

So my reasons were:

1. my saw flop was 17%, pfr was:14% (i was TAG)

2. i have never raised from SB

3. Deill was TAG too

4. its true that my 400 raise was a bit weak 500 would have been better, but at that table from me it represented enough strength or a trap, so they had to put me on JJ+

5. i didnt count with the BB i played that hand against the limpers, so he screwed my original plan, and i when i loose the controll over the pot i like to fold and pick a nother opportunity to build my stack.

6. and Deill instant all-in showed not much fear so i felt like he has AA KK, i just had that feeling i know its a bit lame, but i had the read.

7. if he had AK too which is the more likely. he had the better position and with same cards the position has to win [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

and one more thing. i do like better outplay my opponents than decide a tournament in a preflop battle.

ty all the answers from the respected members.

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

Jus found this post here about Deill from BB

PokerStars Game #12627778778: Tournament #63182595, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (150/300) - 2007/10/14 - 17:28:30 (ET)
Table '63182595 229' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Dantes_11 (10975 in chips)
Seat 2: r.scoundrel (9275 in chips)
Seat 3: nikov (7635 in chips)
Seat 4: Dunamis (26490 in chips)
Seat 5: Deill (6065 in chips)
Seat 6: PokingTobo (7775 in chips)
Seat 7: Jord4n (6010 in chips)
Seat 8: pooli (9395 in chips)
Seat 9: gbmantis (25680 in chips)
pooli: posts small blind 150
gbmantis: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Dantes_11 [4c 2d]
Dantes_11: folds
r.scoundrel: folds
nikov: calls 300
Dunamis: calls 300
Deill: raises 1500 to 1800
PokingTobo: folds
Jord4n: calls 1800
pooli: folds
gbmantis: folds
nikov: raises 5835 to 7635 and is all-in
Dunamis: folds
Deill: calls 4265 and is all-in
Jord4n: calls 4210 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [8s Jh 9s]
*** TURN *** [8s Jh 9s] [8h]
*** RIVER *** [8s Jh 9s 8h] [7c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
nikov: shows [Qd Qc] (two pair, Queens and Eights)
Deill: shows [Th As] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
Jord4n said, "lololo"
Jord4n said, "lololololo"
Deill collected 110 from side pot
Jord4n: shows [Ad Td] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
Deill collected 9390 from main pot
Jord4n collected 9390 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 18890 Main pot 18780. Side pot 110. | Rake 0
Board [8s Jh 9s 8h 7c]
Seat 1: Dantes_11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: r.scoundrel folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: nikov showed [Qd Qc] and lost with two pair, Queens and Eights
Seat 4: Dunamis folded before Flop
Seat 5: Deill showed [Th As] and won (9500) with a straight, Seven to Jack
Seat 6: PokingTobo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Jord4n (button) showed [Ad Td] and won (9390) with a straight, Seven to Jack
Seat 8: pooli (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: gbmantis (big blind) folded before Flop


i made a bad fold.

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

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I'm pretty sure this is a FO. The average stack size of 5500 is consistent with 3K starting chips after one hour. The time is almost 8PM, which would be consistent with the blinds levels of a tournament starting at 7PM, and there is a $100 FO at that time, but not a $100 rebuy.

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Wow. Could you also find out if my gf is cheating on me?

Oh and yeah you made a bad fold regardless of whatever that other hand you found and posted was.

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

lol

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Wow. Could you also find out if my gf is cheating on me?

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...I have some bad news

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Wow. Could you also find out if my gf is cheating on me?

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...I have some bad news

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ASPoker8, you just made me spit beer all over my monitor. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

This thread is really funny, keep up the good work

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

OP, how can you STILL think your fold is fine (with info you had at the time..)? if you do I do I dont think why you posted the hand.

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

Dear All,

ill try to summaries the post and the hand again i just looked back the tourn stats at PokerOffice and ill try to explain that why did i fold that, i made the post bc i have never folded AK preflop when there were not two or three allin before me. It happened like once or twice around the bubble.

But now i was pretty sure that im making a good laydown. (not counting that i doubled up in the next hand with a floped nut flush).

So my reasons were:

1. my saw flop was 17%, pfr was:14% (i was TAG)

2. i have never raised from SB

3. Deill was TAG too

4. its true that my 400 raise was a bit weak 500 would have been better, but at that table from me it represented enough strength or a trap, so they had to put me on JJ+

5. i didnt count with the BB i played that hand against the limpers, so he screwed my original plan, and i when i loose the controll over the pot i like to fold and pick a nother opportunity to build my stack.

6. and Deill instant all-in showed not much fear so i felt like he has AA KK, i just had that feeling i know its a bit lame, but i had the read.

7. if he had AK too which is the more likely. he had the better position and with same cards the position has to win

and one more thing. i do like better outplay my opponents than decide a tournament in a preflop battle.

ty all the answers from the respected members.

>>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;

AK is not a hand what u cant fold ever. But obv i made a bad lay down, but at least i can lay down AK

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

lol

Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did
 

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AK is not a hand what u cant fold ever. But obv i made a bad lay down, but at least i can lay down AK

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