AQo in bb vs. utg raise
 

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB ($275.20)
Hero ($414)
UTG ($798.60)
MP ($912.50)
CO ($388)
Button ($383)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif.
<font color="red">UTG raises to $14</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls $10.

Flop: ($30) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif <font color="#666666">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $22</font>, Hero calls $22.

Turn: ($74) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif <font color="#666666">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $54</font>, Hero calls $54.

river also c/c if it blanks?

i have villian over 70 hands as a 18/16 tag
i don't wanted to 3bet this tight player but folding seems to weak to me so i just called
till i don't see him calling worser hands if i cr the flop o planed to c/c the flop and c/c the turn... if he cb i would vb the river if he bets i would most likly call

how do you play here vs. a tigh player who isn't overaggresiv

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I like a flop c/r vs most opponents, but c/c seems ok vs someone tight/not over aggro. c/c turn and blank rivers is ok. I could find a fold on the river vs a super tight villain who rarely bluffs, but i don't know if that's the case here.

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looks fine

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I would c/r the flop when the raiser is 18/16 most of the time. As played, re-evaluate river and more than likely call.

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I like how you played it so far.

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yeah i would c/c almost any river. he can be betting worse for value given your passive line, which i dont mind at all

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your line is fine, but 18/16 isnt that tight
i think flop CR is ok here to

idk what you guys are referring to as blanks-i think every card is a blank except i guess you could argue a K isnt
but regardless i dont think you can fold on any river if hes smart and aware of your range...if hes bad tight you could fold a river K to a strong bet

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idk what you guys are referring to as blanks-i think every card is a blank except i guess you could argue a K isnt

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I don't believe the 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] would be an entirely blank river for instance. Agreed?

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edit: deleted

...low i was talking about another hand oO...

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I kind of lean towards a flop c/r, but it has to suit your style of play or it won't work. I see guys call me down with TT and the like.

As played, I'd bet/fold the river.

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As played, I'd bet/fold the river.

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that seems kinda exploitable.

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i minblogbet/called the river :/
but i don't think that this is the best move because it forces you to call a raise...

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betting river, both small and big, will just get you into trouble vs decent players. c/c &gt; betting

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i don't wanted to 3bet this tight player but folding seems to weak to me

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I think reraise or fold would be better than call. And if you don't want to call a tight player's UTG raise, then fold. I don't think it's weak to give up a potentially dominated ace that will cost you a lot OOP when up against AK on an Axx flop, or cost you a lot OOP when up against an overpair on a Qxx flop. Plus, you'll miss the flop 2/3's of the time anyway, so playing OOP in a raised pot knowing that you won't have the initiative, you suspect that you're behind UTG's likely range of hands (or else you'd reraise), and you'll have ace-high 2/3's of the time on the flop make folding preflop seem like the best play.

As played, c/c on the flop, turn, and river seems like the best way to keep worse hands firing, and pay off better hands the least. So, c/c the river.

Another line might be to c/r the flop, and assume you're beaten if he doesn't fold. His range for calling (or raising) a big c/r on this flop would probably have to be much better than TP.

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You can fold pf against this guy. He's very tight, possibly solidly aggressive, and you're oop.

As played, flop and turn look good. I'll prob bet river for 1/2 to get value from KQ/QJs, maybe even the JJ/TT. If you c/c river, you let him put in big bet when he's ahead and often check behind.

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You can fold pf against this guy. He's very tight, possibly solidly aggressive, and you're oop.

As played, flop and turn look good. I'll prob bet river for 1/2 to get value from KQ/QJs, maybe even the JJ/TT. If you c/c river, you let him put in big bet when he's ahead and often check behind.

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I like this advice.

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i dont think you should be looking to enter into pots in what for your style appear to be marginal spots oop vs solid tags. berate me please

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His range is that much tighter UTG I'd just pitch.

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Whether you CR this flop or not should depend on your CRing frequencies... generally you wanna be CRbluffing enough that you can CR this for good value...

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Wow don't fold PF please. You said he doesn't call worse to a CR, sounds like calling and CRing a lot of flops is +++ev against this guy. If you don't want to CR here then c/cing 2 streets is your only option, river is where your decision is and I'd c/c river readless.

Meh I want to amend that to folding river against a multitabling reg.

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i dont think you should be looking to enter into pots in what for your style appear to be marginal spots oop vs solid tags. berate me please

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I could not agree more.

Thing is, playing AQ here is big time +EV, calling or 3betting pre (I like to 3 bet) are both good

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3-betting here pre seems pretty gross...

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c/c and lead 2 streets.

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3-betting here pre seems pretty gross...

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really??? this is standard for me. why do u not like it?

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3-betting here pre seems pretty gross...

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really??? this is standard for me. why do u not like it?

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Agreed. This guy is not 12/9. He's opening plenty of hands that are much weaker than AQ, or that simply won't continue against a 3bet.

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think about the times he does continue past a 3bet though.

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think about the times he does continue past a 3bet though.

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think about all the times we call, then c/f tho

also, if u tend to 3bet hands like this, ppl tend to start call in position with QK, 56s, 77 etc

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folding is an option too and i would certainly fold with some frequency to nearly everybody here.

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gasp

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lol